J-O Waldner in Swedish Championchip Final

Originally posted by Anger Manager Regarding swedish TT I know a lot about the history and what I think could help it to become better but to write that down here is just to much, instead ask something specific you would like to know

The most specific thing I'd like to know at the moment is about your words: "it's true that sweden hasn't changed their way in training the last 10 8maybe even more) years".

What in your view essentially is this "their way in training the last 10 8maybe even more) years"? Let's say, just give us 5-10 short formulated essential points.

Then, of course, I would like to know, what exactly was wrong with which point and why.

Thanks, Anger Manager, why not say all that just at the beginning. 

And you guys, as far I understand, are talking now about organisational changes?

Just read your last point again: lack of practise. It isn't so that the players are not allowed to play enough, is it? If they are not motivated, then you can forget the other points.

It is the same problem as in other developed countries. You can only wait for motivated and talented players like Waldner and Persson to appear.

Actually ejmaster has already said that, without being an expert on swedish TT:

"Very talented people does not relate sometimes to trainers or number of people playing in a country.

In Spain there it is Rafael Nadal as a tennis player, but i think that following number of people playing tennis, Rafa should be probably from USA.

The same with Severiano Ballesteros in golf some years ago and with a lot of sportman.

That kind of people arises from time to time. Maybe it is not the time yet to Sweden but it can be in the future."

(http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32740&PID=401174#401174)

Originally posted by Mastermind Originally posted by Speedplay You went on to compare records, Waldner vs Xin, well, as far as I know, they don't play in the same league and face different opponents, so where is the point to compare records? I see, we have a little logical problem here. You compared 2 players who played in different leagues and doing this you mentioned the league record of one player only. Do I need to go further into details?

The logical problem here is that I never compared them, I only provided the record for Xin and stating that he hadn't made any great results here.

Originally posted by Mastermind Thanks, Anger Manager, why not say all that just at the beginning.  And you guys, as far I understand, are talking now about organisational changes? Just read your last point again: lack of practise. It isn't so that the players are not allowed to play enough, is it? If they are not motivated, then you can forget the other points. It is the same problem as in other developed countries. You can only wait for motivated and talented players like Waldner and Persson to appear. Actually ejmaster has already said that, without being an expert on swedish TT: "Very talented people does not relate sometimes to trainers or number of people playing in a country. In Spain there it is Rafael Nadal as a tennis player, but i think that following number of people playing tennis, Rafa should be probably from USA. The same with Severiano Ballesteros in golf some years ago and with a lot of sportman. That kind of people arises from time to time. Maybe it is not the time yet to Sweden but it can be in the future." (http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32740&PID=401174#401174)

Originally posted by theman didnt waldner and persson complete high school? [ iwas watching the old training video based on that :) didnt they among others attend a "table tennis high school?" or a sports academy education centre place thingy?