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    Posted: 03/19/2010 at 6:38pm
If the player play too fast (hit fast/spinny and a nice footwork), in your opinion is best use a off- for balance or a off+++++ for be super fast setup?
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That is really a most un explained question, I can't understand what you are asking.
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I think he's asking if someone is a very fast player (in terms of hitting the ball hard/spinny?), should they balance their play with an OFF- blade for better control or should they go all out with an OFF+++ blade to fully exploit their strength?

But I could be wrong.

And even if I'm right about what he's asking, I don't have an answer. Ermm
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Originally posted by Anton Chigurh

I think he's asking if someone is a very fast player (in terms of hitting the ball hard/spinny?), should they balance their play with an OFF- blade for better control or should they go all out with an OFF+++ blade to fully exploit their strength?

But I could be wrong.

And even if I'm right about what he's asking, I don't have an answer. Ermm

Well luckily Anton, everybody's favorite reference has already answered this for us. All of the Chinese players are very powerful and fast and use significantly slower setups than their european counterparts. By being able to generate better power on your own you can use slower equipment to improve your short game and defense.
 
Thank you Chinese National Team! Wink
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I'm at a loss Anton, I cant get my head round '' If a player is too fast'' I dont know what that means...
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Originally posted by BMonkey

Originally posted by Anton Chigurh

I think he's asking if someone is a very fast player (in terms of hitting the ball hard/spinny?), should they balance their play with an OFF- blade for better control or should they go all out with an OFF+++ blade to fully exploit their strength?

But I could be wrong.

And even if I'm right about what he's asking, I don't have an answer. Ermm

Well luckily Anton, everybody's favorite reference has already answered this for us. All of the Chinese players are very powerful and fast and use significantly slower setups than their european counterparts. By being able to generate better power on your own you can use slower equipment to improve your short game and defense.
 
Thank you Chinese National Team! Wink
That's why they are still using 5-ply and Tacky rubber right?
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Originally posted by spitfire

Originally posted by BMonkey

Originally posted by Anton Chigurh

I think he's asking if someone is a very fast player (in terms of hitting the ball hard/spinny?), should they balance their play with an OFF- blade for better control or should they go all out with an OFF+++ blade to fully exploit their strength?But I could be wrong.And even if I'm right about what he's asking, I don't have an answer. Ermm
Well luckily Anton, everybody's favorite reference has already answered this for us. All of the Chinese players are very powerful and fast and use significantly slower setups than their european counterparts. By being able to generate better power on your own you can use slower equipment to improve your short game and defense.
 

Thank you Chinese National Team! Wink
That's why they are still using 5-ply and Tacky rubber right?


it should read:

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Originally posted by edusena

If the player play too fast, in your opinion is best use a off- for balance or a off+++++ for be super fast setup?
 
i don t understand,you mean a player that moves fast like ryu or a player that has a very fast fh/bh?
 
if you mean the 1st thing then you must use a medium fast blade, the acceleartion of your  body will add enough power
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If a "fast" player tends to hit the ball immediately after rebound, then having an fast blade could make such playing style more effective.
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I tend to agree with vvk1 because a fast player usually refers to a fast attack style player, which takes the ball early. The idea is to give the opponent less time to react. So another way of take more time away from the opponent is to get the ball fast to him. A fast reacket with fast rubbers or pips would do it.
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Originally posted by vvk1

If a "fast" player tends to hit the ball immediately after rebound, then having an fast blade could make such playing style more effective.
 Its all wonderful... until the ball starts coming back , then the 'fast' player is beaten by his own pace......
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Originally posted by APW46

Originally posted by vvk1

If a "fast" player tends to hit the ball immediately after rebound, then having an fast blade could make such playing style more effective.


 Its all wonderful... until the ball starts coming back , then the 'fast' player is beaten by his own pace......


No argument here. It is a risky strategy, and requires quick reflexes. But, hey, isn't that what table tennis is all about and why we play it?
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Posts: 80 		Post Options Post Options   Quote edusena Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/20/2010 at 8:57am
sorry i dont been very clear, a fast player in my vision is good footwork, comes so quickly in the ball that has time to think what do, and with powerfull strokes too.

im ask because normally here in brazil (dont know in other countrys) the game in the young categories are fast focusing in finish fast the point, and not focusing on slow moves and not missing
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Originally posted by Reinecke

Originally posted by spitfire

Originally posted by BMonkey

Originally posted by Anton Chigurh

I think he's asking if someone is a very fast player (in terms of hitting the ball hard/spinny?), should they balance their play with an OFF- blade for better control or should they go all out with an OFF+++ blade to fully exploit their strength?But I could be wrong.And even if I'm right about what he's asking, I don't have an answer. Ermm
Well luckily Anton, everybody's favorite reference has already answered this for us. All of the Chinese players are very powerful and fast and use significantly slower setups than their european counterparts. By being able to generate better power on your own you can use slower equipment to improve your short game and defense.
 

Thank you Chinese National Team! Wink
That's why they are still using 5-ply and Tacky rubber right?


it should read:

"thank you tuning/boosting/cheating"
Almost every pro boosts their equipment so my statement is still true. Ermm
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