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Originally posted by crackfst crackfst wrote:

Originally posted by Da Baobei Da Baobei wrote:

Originally posted by IanMcg IanMcg wrote:

Morizono's rubbers are G-1 and T05, right?


Yeah


fastarc? on FH or BH


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the blade of Eugene Wang is a clipper , not a Kong Linghui euro
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Originally posted by jeannn jeannn wrote:

the blade of Eugene Wang is a clipper , not a Kong Linghui euro

It is a Kong Linghui euro, friend Smile
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i know !!!!!!!    but check the Eugene Wang pic  . You have 2 red lines ( like the clipper )  NOT one like the Kong Linghui euro
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My friend jean, i dont insist on this cause the photo is too tricky.A more zoomed photo would be great, but as i said it is tricky cause we have one red line in KLE, 2 red-orange lines from tenergies and one red line from the top sheet of tenergy.So it is quite tricky for "naked" eye.We would need more zoom to find out the truth Wink But u can be also true, as i said, i dont insist Smile
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Zoomed picture of Eugene Wang :

E. Wang's blade big picture

If you look the bottom of the handle, it has Butterfly logo and 2 red lines like the Clipper. I don't know what is this blade.
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yep the plies look like clipper and PG-7
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a ha, now it is pretty clear!It could be also a tibhar samsonov force pro black edition.Too many blades with 2 red lines...
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KLHE is the only blade handle that fits what's in the zoom, and it makes zero sense for him to put that handle on another blade. I'm stumped. 
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The blue handle Kong Ling Hui all-wood OFF is a really bad blade, brick stiff, and "almost unplayable" in real match situations. 
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Some pro players use custom Butterfly blades made for them. For instance, Yang Haeun and Sato Hitomi use these custom blades (respectively ALC and AL I think) but with different handles than the commercial blades and no names/"model tags" on the handle.
Maybe E. Wang uses a custom blade ?


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Originally posted by takacslaci takacslaci wrote:

The blue handle Kong Ling Hui all-wood OFF is a really bad blade, brick stiff, and "almost unplayable" in real match situations. 

It is one of the best non-made in japan blades of butterfly! The only negative is the weight, it should be lighter!


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Originally posted by seguso seguso wrote:

Some thoughts about FZD and viscaria/infinity:


It seems to me very unlikely he is using a Viscaria, and likely that he is using an Infinity. Why did someone first think it was a Viscaria ?

That's why

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I remember reading somewhere that specifically stated Eugene is the one who mentioned he used that blade now. Can't find it now though. 
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Originally posted by john18 john18 wrote:

Some pro players use custom Butterfly blades made for them. For instance, Yang Haeun and Sato Hitomi use these custom blades (respectively ALC and AL I think) but with different handles than the commercial blades and no names/"model tags" on the handle.
Maybe E. Wang uses a custom blade ?




I think eugene is not goid enough to get custom bladed
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by john18 john18 wrote:

Some pro players use custom Butterfly blades made for them. For instance, Yang Haeun and Sato Hitomi use these custom blades (respectively ALC and AL I think) but with different handles than the commercial blades and no names/"model tags" on the handle.
Maybe E. Wang uses a custom blade ?




I think eugene is not goid enough to get custom bladed


But anyone with a few hundred bucks to burn can ask Butterfly to make them a custom blade.
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Yes, here you can have a custom racket (price between 150$ to 375$) with the blade and handle shapes you want, the blade and grip materials you want, the weight you want and I think the handle design (color, form) you want based on designs that already exist and it's specified that there is no lenses with the blade's name for these custom blades.

The link : http://www.butterfly.co.jp/lineup/racket/custom/
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fang bo uses w968 :) i get one blade from him :)
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by john18 john18 wrote:

Some pro players use custom Butterfly blades made for them. For instance, Yang Haeun and Sato Hitomi use these custom blades (respectively ALC and AL I think) but with different handles than the commercial blades and no names/"model tags" on the handle.
Maybe E. Wang uses a custom blade ?




I think eugene is not goid enough to get custom bladed

Sure he is. 

He's hands down the best player in NA. He's close to top 50, and he's a butterfly sponsored professional.
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to summarize: among the top 10 players, who is using T64, who is using T05, and who T05-fx, on backhand? Thanks
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Originally posted by seguso seguso wrote:

to summarize: among the top 10 players, who is using T64, who is using T05, and who T05-fx, on backhand? Thanks

T05: ML, XX, FDZ, Dimitri, Timo, Fang Bo, Marcos
T64: Mizutani
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I think there was a correction rewarding ZJK's alleged bat pic during the world champs in Paris.

There was no absolute certainty it was his, because it was being handled by a CNT official, and I think it turned out to be Yan An's – who I think does play with T05FX, judging from the way he hits the ball and the sound it makes.
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Yeah Yan An's dad suggested he switched. He basically said he didn't enjoy it though haha. 
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CCY also uses T64.
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ML and XX do not use T05 on BH, but a special rubber made of H3 topsheet on bouncy sponge.
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Originally posted by Olio Olio wrote:

ML and XX do not use T05 on BH, but a special rubber made of H3 topsheet on bouncy sponge.

Outdated. They both used it for a good while. Then both switched back to Tenergy before WTTC. However while Xu Xin stayed with his Tenergy Ma Long settled back to the Hurricane for WTTC. So currently, as for the most up to date available news, Ma Long uses H3 both sides, Xu Xin is currently using tenergy. This is due to his coaches advise because of the lack of ability when playing defensively with hurricane on BH. 
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CNT has stopped using T64 after new ball implementation. Most of them turned to T05 on bh for hitting and spin generation. Ma Long gave up on T64 right before 2015 wttc...

Malong uses Dhs on bh....
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Originally posted by AMonteiro AMonteiro wrote:

Originally posted by seguso seguso wrote:

to summarize: among the top 10 players, who is using T64, who is using T05, and who T05-fx, on backhand? Thanks

T05: ML, XX, FDZ, Dimitri, Timo, Fang Bo, Marcos
T64: Mizutani
T05-FX: ZJK

wrong. Ma Long  uses H3 on an unknown sponge(but from the colour it's not Tenergy sponge), as seen in the WTTC

Xu Xin did too, but i think he is back to Tenergy now?
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I forgot to say it explicitly in my previous post, but it's also wrong for ZJK. He's on T05.

Wouldn't make sense for someone with this kind of BH technique to use a soft sponge.
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Originally posted by crackfst crackfst wrote:

Originally posted by AMonteiro AMonteiro wrote:

Originally posted by seguso seguso wrote:

to summarize: among the top 10 players, who is using T64, who is using T05, and who T05-fx, on backhand? Thanks

T05: ML, XX, FDZ, Dimitri, Timo, Fang Bo, Marcos
T64: Mizutani
T05-FX: ZJK

wrong. Ma Long  uses H3 on an unknown sponge(but from the colour it's not Tenergy sponge), as seen in the WTTC

Xu Xin did too, but i think he is back to Tenergy now?


The "unknown" sponge was already revealed months ago
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