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beeray1
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Just because it was blue doesn't mean he was using hurricane (although very highly likely) it could have been Bluefire. :)
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mayuki24
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Most players in Hong kong do have the supply of getting Hurricane 3 special versions like those supplied in CNT team B perhaps. I know he had used chinese rubbers for quite a time since I watched his games and you could notice he's using a very hard sponge and more likely the sound is like a chinese rubber..
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Nittaku Runlox (C-Pen)
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TurboZ
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Wong Chun Ting must be a fan of Xu Xin. He just changed his blade to Intensity from Rosewood in the Spanish Open. Barely survive the semi with the new setup. He lost a few straight points in the first game and more mistakes than normal. I think he play better with Rosewood just like Xu Xin. It takes a few months for Xu Xin to get used to it.
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Mickael
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Whey dimia is twiddling when he is smashing against mizutani? Why the red is faster?
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Nittaku Acoustic Carbon FL
Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 FH Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 BH |
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glanden.zheng
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Where does he do that?
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Butterfly Viscaria FL
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TSuBaSa
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Dima is using bluefire on bachkand now.
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Nittaku Tenaly Acoustic Inner Carbon
Joola Rhyzer Pro 50 & 45 |
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seguso
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which bluefire? |
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AndySmith
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Dima was twiddling a lot during the German Open. Check out the final with Jun - lots of lobbing = lots of twiddling.
I haven't seen any evidence that Dima has switched from tenergy. Anyone got a pic to back it up? My guess is that his black rubber is softer than the red (boosted?). |
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J.P. Gatien
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Dima is twiddling bcz he feel's much more comfortable smashing with T64 instead of T05.
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TSuBaSa
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I dont know. I just saw the blue sponge on his bh. So I guess its bluefire.
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Nittaku Tenaly Acoustic Inner Carbon
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AMonteiro
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Baum and Skachkov for sure are using BF on their BH on serious events. Dima was using it only at invitational events like Energis Masters, etc..
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Mickael
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Ok. We have three guesses for now:
1. His backhand is bluefire ( don't think so because bluefire is harder to smash with) 2. His backhand is boosted. Can be but why he is not boosting the forehand also? 3. His backhand is 64. Most probable and justifies it is faster and no sound change. Let us vote :) or somebody posts a picture please. |
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Nittaku Acoustic Carbon FL
Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 FH Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 BH |
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seguso
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well if his backhand is bluefire m1, the reason for the twiddling is clear: m1 is faster than t05 at full power. Probably because it is harder.
But the question is how can they use such a hard rubber as m1 on bh... it does not seem very fit. banana flip becomes too difficult. Jp01 would make sense, but it didn't exist at the time Baum was using bluefire. And m2 would make sense on bh, but it is not faster than t05 I think. Edited by seguso - 04/08/2014 at 4:40pm |
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beeray1
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this was a thread on another forum about Dima switching to bluefire on the black side, and then someone came with pictures showing tenergy. This was at the most recent German Open. I believe it was on the TTD forum. the thing is, you can't see blue sponge since he uses inch tape that covers the entire side of his racket.
This is a german open pick. And so is this. Show me a pic of bluefire? Edit: pics aren't working, here's a link to TTD thread where this is discussed. There is even a super clear picture through his arm of tenergy sponge on both sides in the Final against Mizutani. Sorry, no bluefire. http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?7808-Ovtcharov-using-a-blue-sponged-rubber-on-the-fh!
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TurboZ
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Many swear Dima use BF but so far no pic to back that claim up. And all pics show either the butterly logo or red sponge so it really should be a closed case.
My guess of his switch to red for smash is that the sponge is thinner. May be T64 really smash better than T05? I don't know.
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ttping85
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Yes T64 is clearly better for smashing than T05. T05 takes more effort to finish the point but you also have a bit more control.
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wiktor145
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Jun Mizutani Tiago Apolonia Edited by wiktor145 - 04/09/2014 at 2:52pm |
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puppy412
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name of apolonia blade?
is it tenergy 05 the black? his bh looks like evolution? Edited by puppy412 - 04/09/2014 at 3:01pm |
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arxidiavol
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Just Korbel , it's clear.
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puppy412
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you mean butterfly petr korbel? doesn't look like it, sorry. Edited by puppy412 - 04/09/2014 at 3:54pm |
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beeray1
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If you don't think that looks like a Korbel, I'd guess you've never seen one
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puppy412
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I thought to myself "this must be a korbel". then apolonia said to me "look well, look at the lens area, the orange part is big and occupies half of the lens. a korbel doesn't look like this. now leave me alone." I wanted to ask what blade it was but he left in a hurry because the opponent made a block to his deep fh. Edited by puppy412 - 04/09/2014 at 4:34pm |
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Rich215
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Though that pic of T. A. is from a vid clip....the lighting makes the lens of his blade reflect to not show the KORBEL label clear. But you must know that because you can tell (from that same pic?) that the backhand rubber on it is Evolution......when you can only see a small portion of the sponge edge? Dude.....can i have some of what your smoking? |
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High_Arc
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Am I the only one who thinks that the sponges of the black rubbers of both Mizutani as well as Apolonia look yellow instead of orange?
Of course it could be the lighting, but then in all videos of the German Open it seems that the sponge of Mizutani's FH rubber is yellow under all circumstances. If true, it could be an all new version of Tenergy... Probably I'm wrong...
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puppy412
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right, blade is not korbel and bh is evolution. no you can't have what I smoke |
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puppy412
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ok after deep forensic analysis of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px2J9GO4a6w and smoking of what I am smoking I declare that -the blade might be korbel. the horizontal lines are there but the lens don't match the lens of korbel. -the bh rubber is most likely tibhar evolution. the evidence presented so far is not enough to close this case, so as far as I'm concerned, he could be using a banda waldner with mark v both sides. Edited by puppy412 - 04/09/2014 at 6:08pm |
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IanMcg
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At 0:25 to 0:26 in the video, you can clearly see the brown and white that is characteristic of a Korbel. The lens doesn't look like that of a Korbel, but it could just be angle of perspective. FH is clearly TENERGY, backhand clearly has a blood red sponge that is a darker shade of red than TENERGY.
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rui pedro81
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i´ll just say... forget about the lens
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puppy412
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many blades have that two lines pattern so just because of that it's not a korbel. for example stiga infinity vps has those same lines. here he says he uses a blade with his name http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?4835-Interview-with-Tiago-Apolonia maybe he does but the blade is not out yet. or maybe he does use korbel, no way of knowing... Edited by puppy412 - 04/10/2014 at 12:47am |
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