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Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

wow these blades have basically almost nothing common...dwell is longer for barwell.

Ok so means Barwell has more ability for looping and has more feel of biting the ball? 
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Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

wow these blades have basically almost nothing common...dwell is longer for barwell.


Ok so means Barwell has more ability for looping and has more feel of biting the ball? 


Yes I think so but ZQ is way betterfor smashing.
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Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

Originally posted by pak abu pak abu wrote:

Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

wow these blades have basically almost nothing common...dwell is longer for barwell.


Ok so means Barwell has more ability for looping and has more feel of biting the ball? 


Yes I think so but ZQ is way betterfor smashing.

It looks like promising for me. Because I like spin and looping rather than smashing.. Used to play with Darker Speed 90.. ZQ feel a little bit weird. Well maybe  a lot in looping ability. Maybe because of composite. Like woody. 1 ply hinoki feels very nice.. Just wanna go back to multi-ply.. Anyway, many thanks.
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I have a barwell only used once for sale. I like to smash so ZQ works much better for me. That said barwell is a great blade has amazing catapult and looping ability. Craftsmanship and quality are impeccable. PM me if interested.
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Can someone compare XZQ with Butterfly ALC blades,  (TBS / Vscara / ZJK ALC) in terms:

1.Speed
2.Vibration
3.Stiffness
4.Dwell time
5.Overall feeling

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Speed: XZQ > Viscaria
Vibration: thick 9-ply XZQ < Viscaria. Imho, XZQ does not vibrate at all.
Stiffness: XZQ > Viscaria
Dwell time: similar
Overall feeling: XQZ is heavier and marginally faster when smashing. IMHO, Viscaria gives better/more feedback to the player than XZQ at lower gears and when looping.
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I have ZJK ALC with 93g and the blade is excellent, plenty of power, great feeling, a lot of control. The weight of the blade is quite rare, but unfortunately for me, the blade has a FL handle, and I prefer ST handle.
So I slowly started to look for  replacement that is similar to the current Zjk ALC.

I like XZQ  because are no vibration,(i dont like vibration at all) a soft feel (hinoki) and that should be a not too fast, solid blade with a soft feel, a lot of  dwell time. (everything what I need and like)Smile

But the question is how I will like XZQ compared to current Zjk ALC, which I like a lot, except FL handle.
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Originally posted by vvk1 vvk1 wrote:

Speed: XZQ > Viscaria


no way. Viscaria much faster
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by vvk1 vvk1 wrote:

Speed: XZQ > Viscaria


no way. Viscaria much faster

At the same weight, XZQ is much faster than Viscaria.

Dwell time XZQ>Viscaria
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Originally posted by dual700 dual700 wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by vvk1 vvk1 wrote:

Speed: XZQ > Viscaria


no way. Viscaria much faster


At the same weight, XZQ is much faster than Viscaria.


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LOL
XZQ = 7.0 mm
Viscaria = 5.8 mm

You might have the impression that Viscaria is faster because ZQ has much longer dwell time.
I had 2 viscarias, 6 ZQ. I let people try them too. None said ZQ is slower. Put the same rubbers on both and compare.
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Originally posted by dual700 dual700 wrote:

LOL
XZQ = 7.0 mm
Viscaria = 5.8 mm

You might have the impression that Viscaria is faster because ZQ has much longer dwell time.
I had 2 viscarias, 6 ZQ. I let people try them too. None said ZQ is slower. Put the same rubbers on both and compare.



I had same rubbers on both blades. both 86g. Viscaria was much faster
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I found the Viscaria a bit slower than Zetro Quad
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Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:

I found the Viscaria a bit slower than Zetro Quad


Yeah, me too. The ZQ is a LOT softer, so gives the impression of being slower at low impact speed IMO. Fast everywhere else.
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Try avalox hado ( 9 ply hinoki, 7-7.2 mm thickness).
I havent played with better blade like it.

It is definitely not off-, but off up off+, but control and dwell is awesome. No vibrations.
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It was advice, who wants something similar than xzq(off+), but with better control.
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Question for you who have tried more XZQ, what weight is the best?

The declared weight is 90g, but real weight ranging from 85g to 97g.

Can someone with a caliper measure the ST handle I cant find  the size of the ST handle on the internetConfused

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It sounds weird but my 86 is both faster and spinier than my 92. It flexes more(spinier?) and I guess the ball penetrates to the carbon layer (faster) maybe???  
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Yeah, a little weird that easier blade is faster than heavier, but if so, it confirms the theory that each blade is absolutely unique.

It is often case where we have two of the same blades, same or very similar weight, and one  is faster / more power / better spin..

To able to be 100% sure, for test we should have a 5 blade weights 86g and 5 blades 92g and then compare speed/spin/feeling.Wink



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What is with vibrations 86g blade vs 92g blade?

Or both blades are without vibration?Smile



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Do XZQ have that crispness like Viscaria/TBS/ZJK ALC?
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Originally posted by srale7 srale7 wrote:

Do XZQ have that crispness like Viscaria/TBS/ZJK ALC?


Yes it does  Thumbs Up    It's the inner layers giving you this crispy-feeling

At the same time, the hinoki outer-layer has a mild dampening effect to absorb the blocks. Then again, your rubber choice would have great influence
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Again as before the 86 has better crispy feel than my 92. Don't get me wrong I still enjoy playing with the 92. It's just a matter of getting used to each one, with take me about 10 min. Smile
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Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:



Yes it does  Thumbs Up    It's the inner layers giving you this crispy-feeling

At the same time, the hinoki outer-layer has a mild dampening effect to absorb the blocks. Then again, your rubber choice would have great influence


To begining I will put my current combination, Xiom Omega 4 Euro on FH and  Vega Euro on BH , so I'll see how it will play.
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Hey guys ! I'm currently testing some blades for next season and the new poly ball. I've been playing with Diablo Senso for about a year, testing the HRT Clipper as well, and, in a nutshell, quite liking both. The Clipper feels more solid, especially on my backhand where I flat hit a bit more, whereas the Diablo feels better on my forehand where I mostly play topspin.

I was wondering how you'd compare the XZQ to famous limba-outer-ply blades, such as Clippers and this kind of blades (or even to the Donic Diablo Senso, in case you know both blades) ? I still struggle to understand many of its characteristics, I sometimes read it's bouncy, then read it's really soft and catches the ball... well, if any of you guys can explain, your help would be very welcome ;)
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Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:

Originally posted by srale7 srale7 wrote:

Do XZQ have that crispness like Viscaria/TBS/ZJK ALC?


Yes it does  Thumbs Up    It's the inner layers giving you this crispy-feeling

At the same time, the hinoki outer-layer has a mild dampening effect to absorb the blocks. Then again, your rubber choice would have great influence

Im thinkin about replacing my clipper for a xiom blade for short pips cpen, what would be better than clipper but a bit more solid?  ZX,ZXi OR ZQ   ?
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I just ordered this blade from TT11. It will be my first composite blade. Curious to see how it compares to my Tibhar SPW. Have a few different types of rubber to try on it too, including H3 Neo, TG2 Neo, Baracuda and Vega Euro. Pretty sure the Vega Euro is going to be a winner on the BH. Thinking the softer Baracuda might be a good match for the FH. Looping paradise maybe....
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Originally posted by Cochese Cochese wrote:

I just ordered this blade from TT11. It will be my first composite blade. Curious to see how it compares to my Tibhar SPW. Have a few different types of rubber to try on it too, including H3 Neo, TG2 Neo, Baracuda and Vega Euro. Pretty sure the Vega Euro is going to be a winner on the BH. Thinking the softer Baracuda might be a good match for the FH. Looping paradise maybe....

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Blade left Estonia yesterday, so a should be in the states by next week, but who knows how long customs will take this time of the year. Really curious to see how the blade compares to my SPW.
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I played it. Very good looping blade. Little bouncy to short game and the straight handle it's not so good as Stiga's but generally speaking , Zetro is very good and much cheaper than Butterfly's alternatives.
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Originally posted by Stavros Stavros wrote:

I played it. Very good looping blade. Little bouncy to short game and the straight handle it's not so good as Stiga's but generally speaking , Zetro is very good and much cheaper than Butterfly's alternatives.

how does it feel when you hit flat or drive flat? can you compare to clipper or other fast composite blades you have tried?
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