Tenergy for Chinese penhold?

Edited by mayuki24 - 03/09/2011 at 4:56am

Omega740 wrote: I've hit with the t64 and the t25 briefly.  Didn't like it.  For me, a CPEN'er, it had way too much angle in its throw.  Penholders tend to have longer, more defined, strokes.  We bend our knees, then rise and rotate our bodies with a stiffened long arm to generate good ball arc.  When doing this with the Tenergies (Tenergys?), I had to come way over the ball when finishing the stroke.  Since we, generally, are close to the table.  Having a longer stroke and also trying to bring the ball down at the end isn't ideal.  Other players, who have flatter strokes, rely on this rubber to give them that ideal arc in their shots.  I personally didn't see it working for myself.

atin im doubting about the outcome of the weight of my set up and second im worrying about using tenergy could ruin the angle of my shots. Do you think bryce speed fx would be a good rubber for my rpb? bryce speed fx is lighter than tenergy series right? 

trust me, it's not Tenergy that makes/ruines your angles that depens just on your own strokes/technique. For me personally Tenergy 05 is a great rubber on forehand penhold. Since I always cut my rubber around 2 cm above the handle i also reduce the weight of the tenergy...

@apw - yeah i think so :D

@ minicd - could you tell me if the tenergy 05 is high throw or low? and what kind of sponge thickness would suit me for my fh? :D

For more control, goes for the FX version. Just like any other rubber & blade, you have to learn to use it...

Yes.
Looking at your blade, carbon, should be a fast blade. Coupled with fast rubber, you may find it too fast overall. However, it will also depends on your skill level and your liking....

@mayuki, softer rubbers can help to hide holes in your technique, but it's much better to get a slower blade for your h3. If you really want to develop your game, put away your fast blade with whatever rubber on it, take a cheap all-wood AR blade - any of mentioned in the numerous threads about penhold combos for beginners here, put h3 on it and practice, practice, practice... Once you have your touch developed with h3, you can go to any more forgiving rubber for lazy people and you'll be definitely a happy one.

of course tenergy is more than sufficient for any kind of offensive play whether it be cpen, jpen, shakehand you name it. just use whatever rubber works for you. if tenergy works great for you, use it. if tenergy doesnt work well for you, change. if tenergy works alright with you, maybe then consider an alternative.  if your question was meant to be read: is a cpen player better off with tenergy or some other rubber? than tenergy is a fine choice. just blasted expensive and very fast.

mayuki24 wrote: minicd wrote: If your level is high and control isnt an issue, then go for the thicker sponge, if u need more control then thinner, if your a looper, the ball will go high and drop really fast. i use to use Globe999(national), now im using Haifu BW2, (2.2), and i only glue the blade, no glue on the sponge since its already tuned. for my backhand rubber, i use Yasaka MarkV 1mm,   note if your using Donic persson with tenergy, you will definitely have a loud clicking action everytime you hit, try brushing if you brush right, you wont hear the click, but the feeling of transfer of energy to the ball will feel great,   just my opinion bro   i appreciated this thanks! @TT_Haru - well my set up for me is too fast i think. Because i cannot have the dwell that i want to have more spin on every shots and using h3 neo as my fh rubber i've been encountering difficulties in brushing the ball. Do you think soft rubbers with 2.0 sponge would help me but if i would change with that i would lack power i think. I will just need to improve my power right?

Hi, a super fast offensive blade coupled with fast rubber like T05 with with its high tension topsheet + the "spring sponge" its going to make everything pretty fast at the expense of control. The faster or greater the incoming ball, the harder you will find to control and return it.
So u have to slow it down. Either on the blade or the rubber. As for power, IMO, it depends on the blade and its vibration. Those soft blade + too much vibration, I will feel a lack of power even though it could be pretty fast too.
So end of the day, it all depends on your preferences. What you like, your style of play,etc. And you just have to try. I like a setup that is fast, good control and power. And I have found mine and I hope you will find yours too ...

In term of T-series then either 05 or 25 will be suitable for close to table play. I personally prefer 05 over 25. If you choose 25, take note of its low throw cos many of your returns will hit the net and you will have to adjust accordingly. I can generate more spin on 05 than 25. Spin to us, penholders is pretty important.

Yes, Jpen, rounded-square for close table attack ...

T05-FX on my most loved blade. T25 on another, a medium speed blade.

I like T05: well balanced, good speed and spin if you hit it hard enough. However I don't think it will go well with carbon blade, that would be quite difficult to control, the new Bryce speed is bit too heavy for me.