"National" or "Pro" rubber versions

Hi,

I am not going to impeach the fact of "special" rubber versions like Hurricane series or Tenergies. We all know the differences among DHS National/Provincial/Commercial version. BUT, I just watched the match between Maze and Dima and something caught my eye. Maze is supposed tobe using Bryce Speed both sides. He's obvisouly pro, is it Pro version of Bryce Speed then? There is quite a bunch of players who do not use tenergy or h3neo. Are all of those rubbers pro's version or just regular off the shelve ones?

Which leads me to a question, is there really a "PRO" version? Apparently, in case of DHS it seems be just a quality control thing. The best quality ones - National. A lot of people think those versions are specifically made for those players. But obvisouly, you can't make pro version for all rubber brands and series.

I remember a couple of posts which quoted William Henzell who mentioned his experience with Tenergies of some chinese players. Well, it might as well was just heavy boosted ones.

So again, is it actually a special version that's produced or just "hand picked" ordinary mortal rubbers? Is it actually possible that some of them really do use equipment that we, too, can our hands on?


Edited by vutiendat1337 - 12/08/2011 at 6:13am

i agree. if you listen to ma long's and zhang jike's fh loops in youtube, you could hear the "speed glue" sound from their h3 rubbers. my h3 neo before doesnt make such sounds

I actually know for a fact that chinese national team gets national version of tenergy. I could actually easily get a sheet of it, but its really expensive. From what Im told, its way different from commericial tenergy. Its suppose to be a way spinnier and way faster.

mrdoodzki wrote: i agree. if you listen to ma long's and zhang jike's fh loops in youtube, you could hear the "speed glue" sound from their h3 rubbers. my h3 neo before doesnt make such sounds

Ive never actually tried national tenergy before, this is just what Im told. The old national sheets were like 500 hkd per sheet, but now its like 600-700 and this is national team members selling to a family member. I was gonna get a sheet from a national team member, but its expensive and I dont play tenergy so I decided not to.

I tried National Tenergy and the level of play required to use it is the same.  The only difference is that it has a higher potential since the sponge IS denser.

First hand experience - something no one else has that is answer this thread.

ohhgourami wrote: I tried National Tenergy...

assiduous wrote: Just wandering, if they have a better Tenergy, why not sell that at higher price, say 100 USD. I am sure people will buy it.

http://www.prott.cc/shop/Detailed.aspx?d=Protenergy

My H3 makes the same sounds after tuning. It feels more lively than a tensor, and even faster.

mrdoodzki wrote: LGL_fan wrote: My H3 makes the same sounds after tuning. It feels more lively than a tensor, and even faster. any homemade tuning equipment? where to apply? how long is the effect?

I use Goo Gone. Last 2-3 weeks. Passes the device test even though I think it does have VOCs. I use water glue so that I can just rip off rubber after 2-3 weeks, apply a layer of tuner, put it back onto blade, and the rubber is back in service.

glanden.zheng wrote: What would be an equivalent of Goo Gone? I don't think I've found any in Australia...

I don't know, it is a citrus-based cleaning product based on orange oil.

ohhgourami wrote: I tried National Tenergy and the level of play required to use it is the same.  The only difference is that it has a higher potential since the sponge IS denser. First hand experience - something no one else has that is answer this thread.

I'm confused. Traditionally, harder, denser sponge requires better technique to produce topspin. It requires more precision to both drive and topspin shots. A good example is how 41 degree H2 (even speedglued) requires better strokes than the same rubber in 38 degree for consistent performance...

I'm skeptical that rubber that is designed for professional needs and abilities would better suit intermediate or weaker players.

If the difference between National and Commerical were simply in the factory tune job (something that produces a softer, more elastic sponge) then I can completely understand why even developing players might be able to get more out of it.

alink91 wrote: icontek wrote: If you could get rubber that was designed for provincial our national level strokes, would you have the technique to control it?   At least for h3 I think most people have the ability to control both national and provincial. Most certainly provincial.

I might concede that even ex-basement players like me might prefer the factory tune of good Provincial Neos (specifically Provincial Neo H3 compared to Commercial Neo H3) but unlike Provincial players we don't get a new sheet when the factory tune wears off.

I don't mean to steer this back toward a Factory Tune is OK, but Player Tune is Illegal argument, but if I could afford a new sheet of H3 Provincial Neo every 2-3 weeks, I would probably still be using it.

Can you tell that I got a chance to compare a new H3 Neo Provincial with a 6 month old sheet recently? :)

the_theologian wrote: ohhgourami wrote: I tried National Tenergy...   btw, what designated/distinguished it as a National version? (stamp, marking, etc)

It was a joke. Meaning that all "National" claims are associated with fakes. Officially, there is no National version of Tenergy.

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