why women don't use carbon?

is there any professional woman using carbon blade?
why do they mostly use wood?

this would imply that the only advantage of carbon is speed....

i think liu shiwen usese her own "named" blade

carbon adds control???

cotdt wrote: carbon adds control???

does it?

sa01 wrote: Baal wrote: sa01 wrote: this would imply that the only advantage of carbon is speed.... I wonder if it is really true that a higher percentage of women than men use all-wood blades (among, say, the top 100 in the world)?  Supposedly, the "sweet spot" is larger with carbon, but top women in the world don't mis-hit the ball very often, so I doubt that would be the reason.    the only thing I can think of is that wood has more control. but supposedly carbon adds control so? for men I can think of many that use composite. for women not so many.

sa01, Your comment just brought something to my mind.  Perhaps because they men play from farther back and hit so much harder, torsion and flex in the blade is a bigger problem for them than it is for women, who don't rip the ball as hard.  So, maybe the reason is that carbon adds control when you are using a great deal of power (like men).  According to this theory, none of the top players, men or women, use carbon or composite because they need more speed or  power on the ball.  Instead, they use it because it allows them to control the power without having excessive flex and vibration.  I guess it's what you are saying, but with an explanation for the preference. It is definitely an interesting question. 

Baal wrote: sa01 wrote: Baal wrote: sa01 wrote: this would imply that the only advantage of carbon is speed.... I wonder if it is really true that a higher percentage of women than men use all-wood blades (among, say, the top 100 in the world)?  Supposedly, the "sweet spot" is larger with carbon, but top women in the world don't mis-hit the ball very often, so I doubt that would be the reason.    the only thing I can think of is that wood has more control. but supposedly carbon adds control so? for men I can think of many that use composite. for women not so many. sa01, Your comment just brought something to my mind.  Perhaps because they men play from farther back and hit so much harder, torsion and flex in the blade is a bigger problem for them than it is for women, who don't rip the ball as hard.  So, maybe the reason is that carbon adds control when you are using a great deal of power (like men).  According to this theory, none of the top players, men or women, use carbon or composite because they need more speed or  power on the ball.  Instead, they use it because it allows them to control the power without having excessive flex and vibration.  I guess it's what you are saying, but with an explanation for the preference. It is definitely an interesting question.

Ma Long with his all-wood blade hits with more power than Mitzutani Jun with his carbon blade and Ma Long would beat him over and over again.

sa01 wrote: cotdt wrote: Baal wrote: sa01 wrote: Baal wrote: sa01 wrote: this would imply that the only advantage of carbon is speed.... I wonder if it is really true that a higher percentage of women than men use all-wood blades (among, say, the top 100 in the world)?  Supposedly, the "sweet spot" is larger with carbon, but top women in the world don't mis-hit the ball very often, so I doubt that would be the reason.    the only thing I can think of is that wood has more control. but supposedly carbon adds control so? for men I can think of many that use composite. for women not so many. sa01, Your comment just brought something to my mind.  Perhaps because they men play from farther back and hit so much harder, torsion and flex in the blade is a bigger problem for them than it is for women, who don't rip the ball as hard.  So, maybe the reason is that carbon adds control when you are using a great deal of power (like men).  According to this theory, none of the top players, men or women, use carbon or composite because they need more speed or  power on the ball.  Instead, they use it because it allows them to control the power without having excessive flex and vibration.  I guess it's what you are saying, but with an explanation for the preference. It is definitely an interesting question.  Ma Long with his all-wood blade hits with more power than Mitzutani Jun with his carbon blade and Ma Long would beat him over and over again. that's because ma long has more arm power than mizutani.... this justifies my theory that you only use composite when you need more power.

I find that carbon adds more control at mid distance but i don't feel that it's too much faster, just faster rebound. I just got the 7 ply osp blade and i've never hit the ball faster and i feel especially 3m+ off the table it's a lot quicker than any carbon blade i've used simply because of the amount of flex in the blade. This being said, my technique could be a lot better now..

Imago wrote: Because they don't like it hard.

Never heard that complaint before

Both have a different feel that is all, its personal preference. 

I believe that not nearly as many professional men use carbon as what is advertised, although certainly some percentage does. When I read the weights, setups of what some of the chinese women were using (and this was probably 7-8 years ago) I was surpsrised how heavy...often 200g plus.  I think maybe they are getting power from the sheer weight of the blade.

Edited by cole_ely - 04/02/2012 at 10:03am

cotdt wrote: Ma Long with his all-wood blade hits with more power than Mitzutani Jun with his carbon blade and Ma Long would beat him over and over again.

Most of the chinese top players are using all-wood blades.
Ma Long, Ma Lin, Wang Hao, Xu Xin, Wang Liqin...

zzz wrote: cotdt wrote: Ma Long with his all-wood blade hits with more power than Mitzutani Jun with his carbon blade and Ma Long would beat him over and over again. Most of the chinese top players are using all-wood blades. Ma Long, Ma Lin, Wang Hao, Xu Xin, Wang Liqin...

I think penholders don't count here, their technique is different.
in shakehanders you have
wlq, ma long (wood)
zhang jike, yan an (composite)
hao shuai, chen qi (not sure at this point but used tbs or mmaze)