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    Posted: 04/22/2012 at 3:21pm
so there is a chance I will be in US by the end of may.
more exactly in the dallas-forthworth area.
are there any good players or clubs in that area? (preferably around US 5000 level to make it even)
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I believe Jim Butler is in Texas some where - sadly his rating far below your required rating! Perhaps another planet might be more competitive for you!

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I'm willing to lower my expectations....
maybe 4000? 3000? 2000? 1500?
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is 3000 the highest rating in USTT system by default?
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Perhaps someone could film the "king" while he is in the US.
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Go to Texas Wesleyan University (Fort Worth) to get your imperial butt kicked Wink
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Originally posted by sahiggs100 sahiggs100 wrote:

Perhaps someone could film the "king" while he is in the US.


I'd love to.
I don't have a good camera or the right "situation" to film myself, that's why I haven't done it.
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Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Go to Texas Wesleyan University (Fort Worth) to get your imperial butt kicked Wink
 
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Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Go to Texas Wesleyan University (Fort Worth) to get your imperial butt kicked Wink
http://www.ramsports.net/index.aspx?path=tt

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this looks like a university.
is everybody allowed to play there?
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Email the coaches and tell them you're a 5000 level player, they'll be honored to invite you and learn from you. No one there is rated higher than 2800, they're a bunch of losers.

You could also register for one of their camps (3 in May, including May 24-27):
http://www.ramsports.net/sports/2011/3/21/TT_0321112919.aspx?path=tt
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Originally posted by sa01 sa01 wrote:

Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Go to Texas Wesleyan University (Fort Worth) to get your imperial butt kicked Wink
http://www.ramsports.net/index.aspx?path=tt

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this looks like a university.
is everybody allowed to play there?


practice open to anyone
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Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Email the coaches and tell them you're a 5000 level player, they'll be honored to invite you and learn from you. No one there is rated higher than 2800, they're a bunch of losers.

You could also register for one of their camps (3 in May, including May 24-27):
http://www.ramsports.net/sports/2011/3/21/TT_0321112919.aspx?path=tt


but I'll have little time, I work 9 to 5 Ouch
and probably will be doing some activities as well.
but maybe one or two days.....
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I always wanted to ask this question before, guess my oppurtunity is now :)
For you to make 5000, who did you beat to get there? LOL
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He played me and lost, but since my rating is 15000 he still gained as much as going to 5000 rating himself by only playing me (he didn't score any points though)
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Originally posted by Thomasson Thomasson wrote:

He played me and lost, but since my rating is 15000 he still gained as much as going to 5000 rating himself by only playing me (he didn't score any points though)
 
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So who you beat to get to 15000
 
Any Grand Masters wanna declare themselves? Tongue
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I didn't have to beat anyone, do you also question god when he declares he created all that lives, who created god?? Well.. :P

Ps. im just joking, not trying to insult any believes in any way.
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haha.
lets quickly change the topic, before we all get in trouble.
 
So that was why I had the question. How did the rating came along. If the highest was 5000 lets say, then will you never get a 5200 as an example?


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Pretty simple I think. Atleast in the Netherlands its like this:

Competition:

Lets say you get x points for a win, I dont know excatly how many you get.

Play league level A: 300 points for playing in this league, you play 30 matches or less. You gain x points a win. Not based on opponents rating.

Play league level B: 250 points for playing in the league, you play 30 matches or less. You gain x points a win. Not based on opponents rating.

Play league level C: 200 points for playing in the league, you play 30 matches or less. You gain x points a win. Not based on opponents rating.\

etc.

Tournaments:

A-license: 325+ Points
B-license: 275 - 325 Points
C-license: 225 - 275 Points

etc.

Playing non official tournaments won't change rating, lower level players only have 1-3 tournaments a year to change rating, changing rating is mostly in competition.

I think the us way:
You play opponent, you gain/lose rating based on the difference between you and opponent. Rank 1 can't gain rating and is just rank 1. If player rank 1 doesn't play his rating will drop and rank2 will become rank 1, so it is possible to get rating as high as you want being nr2, but there is a standard amount of points you get for being/beating nr1. When you win maybe gain x points and losing will lose you x (x3-4) points? Im just guessing on the last part. The dutch part is the truth but without exact numbers.



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I think Netherland way is pretty nice - so if you loose against a lower rated player due to form - you won't drop that many points - same thing if you had a good day and beat a player with higher rating.
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Yes this way a good or bad day won't give or lose you many points, getting the most accurate rating. Winning vs a low rated will gain you as many as a high rated in the same competition. Some people avoid the better players to get a higher win% in competition, but since most teams have atleast 1 stronger player, they will mostly play all matches. 
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so how many tournaments you had to win to ge to 15000? Wink
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Originally posted by sa01 sa01 wrote:

Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Email the coaches and tell them you're a 5000 level player, they'll be honored to invite you and learn from you. No one there is rated higher than 2800, they're a bunch of losers.

You could also register for one of their camps (3 in May, including May 24-27):
http://www.ramsports.net/sports/2011/3/21/TT_0321112919.aspx?path=tt


but I'll have little time, I work 9 to 5 Ouch
and probably will be doing some activities as well.
but maybe one or two days.....


Texas is a good place to check your Intergalactic rating. Most clubs are open in the evenings so you should be fine...
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Liberty Recreation Center and Tom Muehlenbeck Recreation Center, both in Plano (suburb of Dallas).  But you will not find any 5000 rated players there. Tongue

Check out the Plano TT club :  http://www.planottc.com

They also have a listing of other places around here to play.

http://www.planottc.com/?page_id=28


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Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

I always wanted to ask this question before, guess my oppurtunity is now :)
For you to make 5000, who did you beat to get there? LOL

I believe the answer to this question is straight forward: "HIMSELF"Wink
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Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

I always wanted to ask this question before, guess my oppurtunity is now :)
For you to make 5000, who did you beat to get there? LOL

I believe the answer to this question is straight forward: "HIMSELF"Wink
 
Damn, I always know that for 3 players to hit the ball (where 1 player hit and run to the otherside, and all run in this circle) is damn difficult.
 
Yet alone 1 player.
He must be GOOD
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Originally posted by sa01 sa01 wrote:

Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Email the coaches and tell them you're a 5000 level player, they'll be honored to invite you and learn from you. No one there is rated higher than 2800, they're a bunch of losers.

You could also register for one of their camps (3 in May, including May 24-27):
http://www.ramsports.net/sports/2011/3/21/TT_0321112919.aspx?path=tt


but I'll have little time, I work 9 to 5 Ouch
and probably will be doing some activities as well.
but maybe one or two days.....

x2; just Google tt clubs in your landed area. Find couple respectful clubs, call ahead, walk in and play. With in a mins, those coaches and the club players will invite you to have few 'casual' games :)
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Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

 
Damn, I always know that for 3 players to hit the ball (where 1 player hit and run to the otherside, and all run in this circle) is damn difficult.
 
Yet alone 1 player.
He must be GOOD
Hence the 5000 rating! ....consider this mystery solved!
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Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

I always wanted to ask this question before, guess my oppurtunity is now :)
For you to make 5000, who did you beat to get there? LOL

I believe the answer to this question is straight forward: "HIMSELF"Wink


as you know I never played a US rated player before.
so I estimated my rating by seeing the level of other players, watching videos, etc.
it is not easy to do this estimation...
you don't want to set your level too high because you'll be letting yourself and others down, you'll be putting to much pressure on yourself.
you don't want to set your level too low either, causing others to feel you've cheated on them or you were somehow hiding your own capabilities.


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I thought you were joking about the 5000 rating....
I'm also not familar with USATT rating, and not sure where I rank. But 5000 is a bit much imo...
 
I recall about 10 years ago, Wang Liqin was rated just under 3000, was 29xx.
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you don't want to set your level too high because you'll be letting yourself and others down, you'll be putting to much pressure on yourself.
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