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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Ok, in that list by my count 15 Chinese born players - not mention when did HK become a country. How does Guo Yan feel? Wonder if she'll be willing to go to another Country - where she'll be guaranteed an Olympic spot in 8 years.


Actually you can play Olympics as soon as you get the citizenship. If you were referring to the ITTF rules, they only apply to WTTC and WCup, and also wouldn't allow Guo Yan to play for the new country at all (if the player is older than 21 then he/she is not allowed to represent the new country at World events EVER!!)

4.01.03.04  Players being 21 years of age or older will not be registered with the ITTF and will not be eligible to represent a new association at World Championships. 
4.03.06.03  Players being 21 years of age or older will not be registered with the ITTF and will not be eligible to represent a new association at the World Cup. 
4.04.06.03  Players being 21 years of age or older will not be registered with the ITTF and will not be eligible to represent a new association at the World Team Cup. 



What if a player has dual citizenship, and already appeared for one country and older than 21 yrs old.
Does that mean he/she can't play for the other country that is already a citizen too?

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I think for it to be fair, the 3 singles player should be:

1. LXX
2. Guo Yan.
3. Ding Ning

The teams can be:
1. LXX
2. Guo Yue.
3. Ding Ning

Maybe even bring in LSW as the 4th player for teams, so all 5 players can play in a way at the olympics
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Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Ok, in that list by my count 15 Chinese born players - not mention when did HK become a country. How does Guo Yan feel? Wonder if she'll be willing to go to another Country - where she'll be guaranteed an Olympic spot in 8 years.


Actually you can play Olympics as soon as you get the citizenship. If you were referring to the ITTF rules, they only apply to WTTC and WCup, and also wouldn't allow Guo Yan to play for the new country at all (if the player is older than 21 then he/she is not allowed to represent the new country at World events EVER!!)

4.01.03.04  Players being 21 years of age or older will not be registered with the ITTF and will not be eligible to represent a new association at World Championships. 
4.03.06.03  Players being 21 years of age or older will not be registered with the ITTF and will not be eligible to represent a new association at the World Cup. 
4.04.06.03  Players being 21 years of age or older will not be registered with the ITTF and will not be eligible to represent a new association at the World Team Cup. 



What if a player has dual citizenship, and already appeared for one country and older than 21 yrs old.
Does that mean he/she can't play for the other country that is already a citizen too?



The citizenship in your example doesn't matter - what matters is which country he was registered at ITTF to play for. So yes, if he/she already played for one country at ITTF events, and he is more than 21 year old, he/she will be prohibited from ever playing for another country at World events. Nice, isn't it?
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:



The citizenship in your example doesn't matter - what matters is which country he was registered at ITTF to play for. So yes, if he/she already played for one country at ITTF events, and he is more than 21 year old, he/she will be prohibited from ever playing for another country at World events. Nice, isn't it?


Pro Tours are still allowed right?

So this whole rule kind of destroy TT careers if there are players immigrating for good reasons - ie marriage, or immigrating for childrens sake, war torn country or anything.
I can understand it is important to stop countries like Singapore that imports players (even have a special PR program) for all sporting codes.

But there are a lot of other immigrating reasons.
So as a player, if you know you might immigrate, then don't represent your country or register with ITTF.....

World events is not just pro level, it may also be veterans level (all your life then).

To me, immigrating of players may bring a long term advantage to the country and only a short term problem. To me, it may weigh out as a better option. Unless the country plans on importing for the rest of the century and have no intentions developing local juniors.

So at this stage, any Chinese provincial player that haven't registered with ITTF still can immigrate and play for another country right?

I think ITTF is fixing one problem with another.
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Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Pro Tours are still allowed right?


Even non citizens can represent a country in pro tours. E.g., Li Hu plays in pro tours under Singapore even though he still is a Chinese citizen. Or, our own Jiaqi Zheng plays in pro tour under USA even though she still is a Chinese citizen. 
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