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myali 
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the_theologian
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Posted: 07/06/2012 at 6:58pm |
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hello, welcome to the forum. thanks for putting this in the "equipment" section so icontek doesn't groan. the question has been discussed though.. pretty much every gluing/tuning/boosting question has been look here: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=23537&PID=277068&title=school-glue#277068 for a good cheap water based glue, I'd recommend Tearmender. You can get a large bottle for around ten bucks on ebay. and absolutely I think you should seal your blade before using any wbg ... unless you want to pull splinters out of the top ply's
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myali
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Posted: 07/08/2012 at 11:27am |
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their are two types of tear mender. One is Val-A and other is Bish's which one are you suggesting
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the_theologian
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Posted: 07/08/2012 at 11:52am |
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Bish,
And I have bought from this seller with success: http://www.ebay.com/itm/TEAR-MENDER-Fabric-Leather-Adhesive-6oz-TG-6-NEW-/320749428007?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aae27dd27#ht_1340wt_944
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Rich215
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Posted: 07/08/2012 at 12:03pm |
There is only one Tear Mender. What you are seeing is the old label (one with blue) and the new looking label with the founders face on it (Bish). If you buy the old label bottle...its going to be bad because the new label one has been in production well over a year now. Tear Mender can go bad like most other water based laytex glues. You want the freshest bottle you can find. This is why I will not buy online anymore. I have several stores in my local area that sell them, and I shake the bottle before buying. You should hear it swish around like loose milk, if it makes little to no noise when shaking...its congealing and going bad. Good luck to those outside US whey purchasing online. |
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myali
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Posted: 07/08/2012 at 12:12pm |
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Thanks guys. I got a bottle with the new packing (Bish's face) yesterday from Ace Hardware. Just wanted to double check.
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Posted: 07/08/2012 at 11:28pm |
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You made a great choice.
After initial struggles with 3 or four TT branded Water Based Glues I switched up using Rubber Cement for a long time before finding a few different Water Based Glues that I thought were good. Tearmender is better than many of the commercially available TT glues. |
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Posted: 07/08/2012 at 11:56pm |
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The problem with rubber cement is that it expands some rubbers. If you remove them they appear to shrink.
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the_theologian
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Posted: 07/09/2012 at 12:09am |
yeah but you could let them sit overnight before attaching them and eliminate that problem
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Posted: 07/09/2012 at 1:27am |
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Aw S***!!! :((( LOL Dont let the excitement take over you and glue your rubber on with no seal... :)
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myali
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Posted: 07/09/2012 at 11:26am |
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For sealing the blade do you have to use a water based laquer. I was thinking to use Minwax Polyurethane for sealing the blade. Do you guys use something else or recommend that
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Posted: 07/09/2012 at 12:08pm |
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Minwax wipe on poly works great
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Posted: 07/09/2012 at 12:28pm |
yep, that's what i use, the satin version i wipe it on heavy, leave it for just a bit, then wipe it off with a seperate cloth, then leave it for at least a few hours
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Posted: 07/11/2012 at 1:24pm |
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Thanks guys..I believe one coat of polyurethane should be enough or do i need to use more. As far as legal issues are concerned do you think tear-mender will pass as legal glue
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the_theologian
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Posted: 07/11/2012 at 1:27pm |
1 coat of poly is probably sufficient. Occassionally I'll do two. I always do two on the edge i've read that all wbg's contain a trace amount of voc's but whatever, I think it will be fine. someone will chime in who's more knowledgeable on that
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Posted: 07/12/2012 at 10:54am |
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By the time your glue dries on the blade or sponge.....say 15-20 mins, the VOC's have escaped to a large degree. The amount of any VOC's maybe from ammonia(?)
I have never ever heard of any water based glues coming close to 3ppm levels even when wet. You should not have one worry about using water based glues as far as passing any sniffer tests. |
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