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asmagus 
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What is the most versatile rubber? Not the best to looping or back spinning, or blocking, or general the best in defence or atack ... but just good in all kind of play.
Is there something more versalite/universal than Yasaka Mark V (normal/HPS/HPS Soft)? Another words: what is the best allround rubber, good for cut defence, good for looping, good for smash, with good spin, good for play from 2 zone and so on? |
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1. Donic Waldner Dotec Carbon OFF + BH & FH: Yasaka Mark V max
2. Donic Wang Xi Dotec Control Plus + BH & FH: Donic Bluefire M3 2.0 |
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The answer is very easy for me:
Andro Hexer Duro 1,9 
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Mark V Series, Sriver Series, Stiga Mendo Series......good allround workhorses in the rubber world.
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Posted: 08/08/2012 at 11:59am |
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Yes.
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I'll throw in a vote for Tenergy 05 - very good for both short game (control) and attacking shot.
Arguably, the only 'shortcoming' of Tenergy 05 is its comparably steep price-point. |
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Play someone with very spinny / deceptive serves & / or strong spinny loops and you'll very soon discover at least two other shortcomings  Before a match, I check the opponent's bat. If he has a (in decent shape) T05 on either FH or BH, it affects my service strategy!
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Joola Phenix is pretty versatile I think. Med hard, hit/loop/blocks are all good for me. I've trying to do the ZJK-like short back-hand loop, it works great.
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I believe I have played several people with good spinny serves and loops (in the US rating range of 2300-2500), but I'm not sure I've stumbled upon the 'shortcomings' you're hinting at.  Care to enlighten me? |
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If you don't find T05 more difficult to block with (especially against someone deceptively varying the amount of imparted topspin) and receive serves with than most other rubbers (like the Acudas, Rakzas and Xiom Vega series to name a few), then you, sir are a better man. |
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T05 is the most versatile rubber I've used as far as attacking players go.
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LOL - I really don't feel like I've had any weird issues in those areas. But that said, chances are you're probably right because I'm horrible at 'reviewing' equipment in a general sense. I'm really bad at comparing - I tend to just adapt to whatever I'm playing with.  |
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Firstly, you need to narrow your question down because a versatile rubber for a 2500 and a 1200 is completely different for obvious reasons. However, seeing as a majority of the players on this forum are sub 1500....BEGIN RANT! I want to say chinese rubbers because they are relatively easy to maneuver on most shots but looping can be more difficult than a euro rubber. I am going to have to go with mark v on this one. Edited by DeIgado - 08/08/2012 at 4:23pm |
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Blocking with T05 is a bit different because you want to close down your racket more and push forward a bit. But it makes everything so easy. You can just power loop everything but short spinny pushes.
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Sorry, D...  I did however say above that I'm horrible at reviewing equipment (which is why I typically stay away from those types of threads). |
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Thank You for answer! I have had Tenergys 05 on all and off blades, I'm amateur which play occasionally with the pros, and for me defensive play with tenergy was nightmare. I play far from the table, allround game and some looping, in the 1 zone only after service. You said that "I am going to have to go with mark v on this one." Which one on allroudn blade? Normal? HPS? HPS Soft? Normal, old famous Mark V, does not have "speed glue" technology - is it still suitable to play against tenergys, hexers and so one? |
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1. Donic Waldner Dotec Carbon OFF + BH & FH: Yasaka Mark V max
2. Donic Wang Xi Dotec Control Plus + BH & FH: Donic Bluefire M3 2.0 |
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Killerspin Fortissimo is the most under rated rubber in this category.
Japanese for a classic feel, does everything reasonable well but speed and spin stack up well against tensors. The only stroke I did not try was chipping, sorry. |
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Well, you need to understand that you can do just about anything with any rubber if you really try. Hell, JSH uses t64 which is quite fast, to chop on his fh side. It really all comes down to skill level honestly, a rubber's versatility has nothing to do with your ability to use a rubber. If you think t05 is too difficult to use, switch to skyline3, mark v, rakza 7, hurricane, hexer..... you have options. Consider that t05 is one of the hardest rubber to use for amateurs so if you feel like that is too difficult you have a lot of options and you won't really go wrong with anything. You can also switch down to 1.9 sponge instead of 2.1.
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Viscaria 86g T05 T05-fx
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Well said! |
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i find Andro Hexer and T64 are versatile rubbers. they can do anything. Tenergy is good not just for looping, you can do anything any other inverted rubber can do.
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this is good advice, i will have to try this!
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i really like Yinhe Mercury 2 for the most forgiving on almost all strokes, also very cheap!
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chameleon77
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Posted: 08/08/2012 at 11:28pm |
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for me:
Joola Rhyzm
Stiga Mendo
Donic Baracuda
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FH: Acuda S3 max BH: Joola Turbo 2.0 STIGA Offensive Classic FH: Acuda S2 max BH: 802-40 max |
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I would say, Yinhe Mercury 2 @ 36 d., 1.7 mm - it can do anything on any blade, a truly universal rubber. And dirty cheap... |
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Funny how all these responses are Tensors (or similar). Easiest all round rubber I have every used is H3. I can do anything I want with this rubber from chopping to spinny loops. I wouldn't say its the fastest or spinniest rubber I have ever used but it is certainly decent in these areas.
For a lesser level of performance the Andro Backside rubbers are quite easy to use too. |
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Blade: Nexy Spartacus FL 84g
FH: Evolution FX-P Max Blk BH: Evolution EL-P 1.9 Red |
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asmagus
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Thank You guys.
I asked before about build in "speed glue" (tensors etc) - for ex Mark V, does not have "speed glue" technology, I understood that it is still suitable to play against "tensors" because skill, not rubber, decides who will win ;) But, more versatile with ALL blad will be old Mark V or Mark V HPS/HPS Soft, none of them are tensor but Hybrid Power Sponge is "new formula for the sponge combined with the top sheet of MARK V". I have Mark V HPS Soft but i have never used normal Mark V or any other evolution of Mark V. Edited by asmagus - 08/09/2012 at 4:00am |
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1. Donic Waldner Dotec Carbon OFF + BH & FH: Yasaka Mark V max
2. Donic Wang Xi Dotec Control Plus + BH & FH: Donic Bluefire M3 2.0 |
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mark v for me...im a beginner and it helps me to improve may stroke coz of its control...
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EKRIPS 1.7 mm by Butterfly.
Great for all-kind strokes plus excellent control and ball feeling. Unfortunately, it seems to be now unavailable from any shops outside of Japan. ----------- Actually, ANY OF RUBBERS with a complete range of sponge thickness (1.2 / 1.5 / 1.7 / 2.0 .max) you can now find on the market is designated for "allround play". Each such rubber will make you a versatile player when you pick up sponge in the mid range. Good luck. |
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