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    Posted: 02/06/2015 at 5:33pm
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

He could just have a different handle. But who really knows...


LOL - good point. I start to doubt my own existence these days. Edited my post to reflect the transient nature of the physical world.

Check the Nexy site for good comparison pics:

http://nexy.com/shop/blades/96-samsonov-force-pro.html

http://nexy.com/shop/blades/403-samsonov-force-pro-black-edition.html

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Force Pro - 156x152 - 6.5mm
Black Edition - 158x151 - 6.6mm

Edited by AndySmith - 02/06/2015 at 5:39pm
This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NextLevel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02/06/2015 at 5:18pm
He could just have a different handle. But who really knows...
I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LOG1C1AN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02/06/2015 at 5:14pm
I'm curious if anyone can identify what the 7 plies of the Black Edition are. I have not been able to track down the info. All I've been able to find is the short marketing blurb about it being the "little brother" of the Force Pro. Does that mean it is identical except for the handle color? Those that have hit with it seem to think it plays somewhat differently.


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Looking at the footage of Vladi vs Steger at the Euro Top 16 today, it looks like Vladi is using the Black Edition handle now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=D5Bp_S9aWVo#t=99

Edited by AndySmith - 02/06/2015 at 5:23pm
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Interesting.  I felt like the flared handle on the Tibhar Stratus Powerwood was one of the most comfortable I had ever tried and certainly not very hollow.  Unfortunate they abandoned that for the force pro.
The flare handle for the Samsonove force pro is one of the most comfortable I have ever used.  The hollowness I have heard about from people but never felt it myself.  I do want to try the black edition and will get that once Paddle Palace stocks it.


 I felt that way about Stratus Powerwood too.  I still prefer Butterfly ALC blades overall, but if I were to use all wood, that's what I wold use.
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the black edition seems to have a smaller blade size - anyone know how much smaller?
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Thanks.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

I do want to try the black edition and will get that once Paddle Palace stocks it.


Dandoy has them in stock at a very nice price. I have 2 on the way.
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Interesting.  I felt like the flared handle on the Tibhar Stratus Powerwood was one of the most comfortable I had ever tried and certainly not very hollow.  Unfortunate they abandoned that for the force pro.
The flare handle for the Samsonove force pro is one of the most comfortable I have ever used.  The hollowness I have heard about from people but never felt it myself.  I do want to try the black edition and will get that once Paddle Palace stocks it.

Edited by NextLevel - 02/06/2015 at 11:48am
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Interesting.  I felt like the flared handle on the Tibhar Stratus Powerwood was one of the most comfortable I had ever tried and certainly not very hollow.  Unfortunate they abandoned that for the force pro.
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I tried this blade (87g FL) with MX-P on both sides.

First, MX-P goes like a dream with this blade. Overall, it is very good all-wood.

However, this blade seems to have a hollow handle that isn't too long / large. So, it is very head-heavy, especially with MX-Ps on it.

I'd have to have the BH-Man mod done on this to be able to use it. 

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Originally posted by TurboZ TurboZ wrote:

Is this the blade Vladi is currently using? What about his rubbers?

 
Evolution MX-P both sides I think.
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Is this the blade Vladi is currently using? What about his rubbers?

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Originally posted by ttspirit ttspirit wrote:

Thanks for the information. How did you make the order ? Please tell me how to do.
Is Victor Sanchez the owner of the shop of vsport?

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Hello together, it took almost one month and a half but now I got my new Samsonov Force Pro conic. I'm looking forward to do the first test with the blade. I have already the ST grip at home and the feeling with the blade is good. I played with tenergy05 on it. First I have to seal the blade.

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Actually, there is English site:

http://www.vsport.es/en
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The storefront is standard webshop, you can probably order on this shop with chrome autotranslate very easily.
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Thanks for the information. How did you make the order ? Please tell me how to do.
Is Victor Sanchez the owner of the shop of vsport?

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Hello ttspirit
you can find the blade here :
Manager Victor Sanchez is very helpfull and professional.
 
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Hello to France to jcdi, I'm very interested in the blade you are showing here. Where did you get it and where can I get it?

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There are clippers and clippers...Force pro felt much faster to me than the last 87gr 2011 new clipper I purchased. Also faster than 2005 CR/WRB 82gr. But slower than oversize WRB reduced to normal size.93gr. Speed looked the same to me than DHS PG7 92gr. In other words, force pro is the fastest light 7 ply clipper-like I've had.

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Originally posted by jcdi jcdi wrote:

Very good blade ! One of the fastest 7 ply blades I've had. High throw, soft touch, medium stiff. Doesn't feel very solid. I suspect the handle to be hollow. Not sure thow. Excellent balance. I suppose Vladi found there something as fast as Mazunov with better handle and lighter weight.  Could only play 10mm before elbow pain came back. Not sure it is same construction as Joola Viva cause plies 3 and 5 very much look like balsa to me. Might be wrong there as well.


Some say its slower than Clipper, would you agree with this?
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yogi is one of my best buddies in this forum.... Hug he led me to vega europe ... and i'm ever thankful to him for that time. 


but these days he started smoking herbs and chewing some leaves ....LOL   before reviewing equipments.  And .... i am losing my confidence in his recent reviews...  LOL !!! Wacko  
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Originally posted by debraj debraj wrote:

jcdi .... pl think several  times before praising a blade !!!Angry


....because i take your reviews seriously. Thumbs Up

And i dont have money to throw away..... !!! Cry

 
Please don't take this review too seriously because, as mentioned, I only hit the ball 10 minutes and noone can pretend making a relevant review in 10 minutes.
I only throw few quick impressions there because this blade was discussed about before. The blade has been fully and nicely described by Yogi bear before and you should stick to what he said better.
I'm really not sure about the hollowness of handle, it's just a guess.


Edited by jcdi - 01/27/2013 at 3:32pm
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its still a limba-ayous composition
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jcdi .... pl think several  times before praising a blade !!!Angry


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why ...why on earth we get bogged by total weight of blade????? 

Why... why on earth equipment manufacturers make the handle hollow, to reduce overall weight and please us??????

Why ..... why on earth we buy those blades and use todays heavy rubbers, completely destroying the already messed up balance....????????

Why .... why the shoulder pains come back ?????

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jcdi thx for the reply. it should be an awesome blade
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Very good blade ! One of the fastest 7 ply blades I've had. High throw, soft touch, medium stiff. Doesn't feel very solid. I suspect the handle to be hollow. Not sure thow. Excellent balance. I suppose Vladi found there something as fast as Mazunov with better handle and lighter weight.  Could only play 10mm before elbow pain came back. Not sure it is same construction as Joola Viva cause plies 3 and 5 very much look like balsa to me. Might be wrong there as well.
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since the construction is similar to Joola Viva, they are both 7ply, limba outer, I am wondering if anyone here played with both and what is the difference between the 2 of them?
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