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ttping85 
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 Topic: T64 vs.1QPosted: 01/09/2013 at 9:58pm |
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Hi,
I am currently playing with T64 on quite a fast and bouncy blade (Iolite) but I am looking for a faster rubber to play on slower blades (Holycrown, Maze...) I tried Bluefire and it's great except that the topsheet is just too hard and even the soft sponge on the M3 doesn't help, on the contrary it's bad on power loops for me. I realized I might prefer a rubber with medium-soft topsheet on a medium-hard sponge and thought about the 1Q which I tried a few times but I didn't test consistently yet. Could anybody compare 1Q in details with Tenergy withtout telling me that they don't have the same feel because Tenergy plays like blablabla  I don't want to compare because thet are close or something but just because T64 is my reference rubber and 1Q is the one I am interested in now  What I am interested in is comparison of: Speed Spin hardness (overall, topsheet, sponge) throw-angle sensitivity to incoming spin dwell control weight But also how they perform in different type of plays: serve/return loop short game mid-distance etc... Also if you know any other rubbers with medium-soft topsheet on medium-hard sponge please let me know. Notice that the Omega IV Europe is this type of rubber but the topsheet is a bit too soft for me and I found it not spinny enough.
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right2niru
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Posted: 01/10/2013 at 12:48am |
Comparison for 1Q against T64 FH on M Maze both thickness Speed - slower than T64 Spin - less than T64 on short strokes but on longer strokes engaging the full sponge it's really close. hardness (overall, topsheet, sponge) - T64 feels softer due to their pips spacing but 1Q feels firmer. throw-angle - 1Q is definitely lower than T64 sensitivity to incoming spin - 1Q is better ; doesn't react much to the spin and can impart your own spin. dwell - its a matter of feeling and I think T64 probably has a slightly more dwell even though its faster. control- could handle 1Q (FH) on Maze better than T64. weight - T64 is lighter than 1Q. Can't really speak for the other aspects below But also how they perform in different type of plays: serve/return - loop - short game mid-distance etc... |
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Posted: 01/10/2013 at 3:14am |
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I am playing both T64 and 1Q as well.
right2niru you got the perfect comparison between the 2 rubbers! 
@ttping85, YASAKA RAKZA 7 has more spin than 1Q, I'm looking for cheaper replacement for T64, 1Q is close but not there yet. |
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Posted: 01/10/2013 at 10:31am |
Thanks a lot for this comparison. I have more or less the same feeling except that I found 1Q faster and that I found more control with T64. But I didn't play much with the 1Q yet so it's probably because I am more used to T64. Are you 100% sure about the speed?
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Posted: 01/10/2013 at 10:31am |
Thanks but isn't Rakza 7 a bit harder than T64 and 1Q?
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Posted: 01/10/2013 at 6:43pm |
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mostly agree with right2niru .... with some differences:
Speed - slower than T64 in slow medium shots (more jumpy). but at higher contact speed faster than T64 Spin - less than T64 on short strokes but on longer strokes engaging the full sponge it's really close. hardness (overall, topsheet, sponge) - T64 feels softer due to their pips spacing but 1Q feels firmer. throw-angle - 1Q is definitely lower than T64. 1Q has the lowest throw angle among modern rubbers...comparable with thors. sensitivity to incoming spin - 1Q is less sensitive; doesn't react much to the spin and can impart your own spin. dwell - its a matter of feeling and I think T64 probably has a slightly more dwell. control- could handle 1Q (FH) on Maze better than T64. weight - T64 is lighter than 1Q. Can't really speak for the other aspects below But also how they perform in different type of plays: serve/return - 1q returns easier, and also with 1Q it is easier to keep serves short. But T64 serves are spinnier than 1Q. loop - 1Q is easier to open loops with... but not by much. short game - 1Q hand down... less jumpy in short game. mid-distance - both a powerful... i like 1Q more. etc... |
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Posted: 01/10/2013 at 6:53pm |
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rakza 7 is harder than 1Q which is harder than t64 i mean overall hardness... i think 1Q is faster close to the table and t64 in middistance additional 1Q seems to be easier to play close to the table especially on fh
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Posted: 01/11/2013 at 12:08am |
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Thanks Debraj about the speed desciption, that would explain why I felt the 1Q was faster on certain shots.
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