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Why single-ply Hinoki blade is so special? |
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To my knowledge, there is no such limit. Your blade can be as thick or big as you like, however, making it to big might become a problem as most rubbers sheets aren't that much bigger then a "regular" paddle. |
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Yes there is no limit on total thickness... my own blade is 17mmm thick, and that's without rubbers!
One issue is that the handles become thicker too, which you may or may not like. Weight is an issue too, so unless it's a really light wood, most blades would become too heavy. |
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You may very well be right.
I saw some videos (ITTF sanctioned events), the umpires were using some kind of gadget to measure player's paddle's thickness. (Many of you must have seen that also.)
*** So they measure the paddle's thickness, but they can not reject the paddle from the measurement. Edited by skip3119 - 03/20/2013 at 9:56pm |
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single ply hinoki is amazing for JPen, great touch, feel and power when you need it, the reason for the cost is that i guess because the Hinoki they use is old and selected carefully and also the demand for high quality hinoki, also less sinlge ply hinoki blades are sold when you compare with 5ply etc. . i have a Xiom Athen Platinum RSM Special T64, what a blade to play with, also have Cypress-S with Spinart.
when i used Single ply for shake hand, it did not go well. too thick and not good for my BH flick. i am not entirely sure what it is but it just did not feel right for me.
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I am currently experimenting the Xiom Axelo because I am out of a shoulder injury and I want to put the ball away without going 100%. It looks like I do best with it killing or gently redirecting with in mind a kill next shot; nothing in between. The pushing game is of course awful. I place the 1-ply hinoki blades in the same category no matter the grip: we kill the ball or we redirect it; above all we avoid pushes. 1-ply fast soft blades will work that way but that's not necessarily the way a player learnt to play starting with a sh/5ply all wood grip. It's all about balance (her again! ) between what's best to do with the blade we choose and what's the best blade for what we really want to do.
I like the saying: "the wise man speaks because he has something to say and the fool does because he has to say something" (Plato). |
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Actually, they just mearure the thickness of the coverings (rubbers), which must be no more than 4 mm each. To my knowledge, there is no limit to the thickness of the blade. Nittaku Miyabi is a reasonably priced 9mm Kiso Hinoki blade, however it is shakehand FL only. |
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The gadget they use is to measure the rubbers thickness and to see that the surface is flat/even. |
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You should learn to read. I´m talking about single-ply shakehand blades.
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Notice I SAID JPENS champs as opposed to your comment about shakehand and the icon. Stop being so serious. |
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Saw a picture of a 1-ply Hinoki (on this website, but not this thread), left-side is much darker than the right side. Can that happen with one piece of wood? (Or, may be two pieces of wood glued together?)
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Update (revised): My guess is that it can happen with one piece of wood. Edited by skip3119 - 03/21/2013 at 5:46pm |
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Too much tension in this thread, here's some Kokutaku Jpens for your viewing pleasure
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@eves,
long time no see & finally you appear outta your long long hibernation... I repost your pics. just to soothe some poor angry souls here... |
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thanks tiehwen, ya in and out of hibernation.
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Poor angry soul >> poor two faced-scumbag-wanna be forum police-no life, soul
PS: Nice jpens! Edited by dual700 - 03/22/2013 at 12:59am |
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