Tenergy 80FX coming!?

ttping85 wrote: same here. It's true that T64FX is quite bouncy for a Tenergy rubber but difficult to find a rubber as soft and as linear as T64FX. It's not as linear as other Tenergy rubbers but more linear than all other tensors with the same hardness.

There are three qualities that almost all Tenergy rubbers share

a) characteristic "deadness" (lack of spring-like reaction) to slow balls in slow shots, which allows nice control at the net, controlled blocking, good dropshots

b) very grippy topsheet, second in that regard only to sticky Chinese-style rubbers

c) very nice spring catapult acceleration on strong shots including power topspin loops etc. (some people don't like it since it could be very non-linear and requires a lot of practice to get used to).

T-64 FX lacks A and mostly even C (due to its linearity... nice speed doesn't mean there is a catapult) and I am not even sure that B - topsheet grippiness - is as good as with other Tenergies. That is why I say they should not have released it as a Tenergy rubber, that just confuses people who buy it thinking it is a Tenergy.

JimT wrote: In my opinion (and you seem to say smth along the same lines) T-64 FX is not a Tenergy rubber at all. There is no need for it to exist even since it is playing as so many other rubbers (and cheaper ones too) on the market. It has no Tenergy-like qualities whatsoever and there is a huge difference in feeling between T-05 FX and T-64 FX, imho. But to each his own...

Presumably, T64-FX is just the 64 topsheet on the FX sponge. So it's still pretty much Tenergy. Maybe something about combining these two components washes out some of the Tenergy feel of the rubber. If nothing else, it serves as an interesting case of how small structural changes in the rubber makeup can result in big changes overall.

I preferred 05-FX as a BH rubber on harder blades, but I can't stand it on softer blades. I tried it on the XZQ, Waldner Legend, and the JRE, and seemed erratic to me. Also, I play a lot of my BH stuff close-in, and 05-FX was poor there on these blades. But 64-FX felt right. And I've used a LOT of other rubbers in its class on the BH too - I just feel that 64-FX is the best fit on the JRE for me amongst them all. At full Tenergy prices I wouldn't bother with 64-FX - there are a lot of tensors which are close to it these days. But at £35 a pop (rather than £50), I can stomach it, and it feels more solid and reliable to me. My previous long-termer was Aurus Soft, and it's excellent, but I do get the occasional odd event where I feel the topsheet has slipped in some way (this is the red one, if that matters).

AndySmith wrote: JimT wrote: In my opinion (and you seem to say smth along the same lines) T-64 FX is not a Tenergy rubber at all. There is no need for it to exist even since it is playing as so many other rubbers (and cheaper ones too) on the market. It has no Tenergy-like qualities whatsoever and there is a huge difference in feeling between T-05 FX and T-64 FX, imho. But to each his own... Presumably, T64-FX is just the 64 topsheet on the FX sponge. So it's still pretty much Tenergy. Maybe something about combining these two components washes out some of the Tenergy feel of the rubber. If nothing else, it serves as an interesting case of how small structural changes in the rubber makeup can result in big changes overall. I preferred 05-FX as a BH rubber on harder blades, but I can't stand it on softer blades. I tried it on the XZQ, Waldner Legend, and the JRE, and seemed erratic to me. Also, I play a lot of my BH stuff close-in, and 05-FX was poor there on these blades. But 64-FX felt right. And I've used a LOT of other rubbers in its class on the BH too - I just feel that 64-FX is the best fit on the JRE for me amongst them all. At full Tenergy prices I wouldn't bother with 64-FX - there are a lot of tensors which are close to it these days. But at £35 a pop (rather than £50), I can stomach it, and it feels more solid and reliable to me. My previous long-termer was Aurus Soft, and it's excellent, but I do get the occasional odd event where I feel the topsheet has slipped in some way (this is the red one, if that matters).

I actually liked Aurus Soft on FH more than BH. It's ok on BH too but I am more in need of a grippier topsheet on my BH than on FH... go figure.

@ AndySmith - I've tried T64-FX and it does work at lifting backspin and balls off the table from serves.

I couldn't exactly bond with it though and found I netted more shots than usual during rallies.

Don't know if you've tried T25-FX..? It might be what you're looking for in terms of spin, arc and more power...

I have tried T-25 FX and liked it a lot. I think you might find it better suited to your style than both T-05 FX and T-64 FX... I think it is somewhere in the middle. I only played with a slower version of it - 1.7 mm - but I intend to try out 1.9-2.1 mm... not sure which one to spend my money on.

Andy, if you decide to buy one and test it, let me know - perhaps we could split it... say, you buy 1.9 and I buy 2.1 and then we swap them to test one after another and decide which one is better for each of us.

CraneStyle wrote: Tenergy 80 FX review... Another great review by the TableTennisDaily.UK Guys... http://youtu.be/v6ZhiE_mMYY Maybe someone can embed the video in their post. I'm new to this...

@Pondus - Nice one...

If BTY were smart they would lower the price to $40USD then sales would be off the charts thus increasing profit margins and more players would try a Tenergy rubber.

Present Tenergy prices are cost prohibitive.

frogger wrote: sales would be off the charts thus increasing profit margins

CraneStyle wrote: I think the whole rubber market has been inflated due to the price of Tenergy.

True. And if you look at the new Stiga and Tibhar rubbers, their MSRP/RRP are almost as high as Tenergy. However, the most expensive rubber I ever bought was less than 29eur incl. shipping.

Pondus wrote:

Got my T80FX sheets today. It's like Xmas in April 

Hopefully I can try it out this weekend. Just trying to figure out which blade to glue 1 sheet for BH use

Bought a tenergy 80 fx red 2.1mm to try last week 

proSpin wrote: Bought a tenergy 80 fx red 2.1mm to try last week  Weighs 43g cut to Jun mizutani size.  After a few hits with t80 fx on the bh of my Jun Mizutani, i find the feeling to be the closest to tenergy 05, probably a lighter version. Lifting backspin isn't much of a problem, however it is still quite sensitive to spin compared to tenergy 05fx. Rubber gives a nice clicking sound when blocking topspin shots, also relatively lower throw when looping compared to t05 and t05fx. I have tried T80 before, not really to my liking in terms of hardness, speed and spin and weight. But for t80fx, it is pretty impressive. May need more time to utilise the rubber fully.  Comparing T80fx to T05fx & T05 Spin : (T05 > T80fx > T05fx) Speed : (T80fx > T05 > T05fx) Control: (T05fx > T05 > T80fx) Note that this is based on what i feel. May not be the same for the rest of us.  Hope this helps a little.

right2niru wrote: Snakefish wrote: Got my T80FX sheets today. It's like Xmas in April  Hopefully I can try it out this weekend. Just trying to figure out which blade to glue 1 sheet for BH use How do you compare it against your existing BH rubbers ? How Does T 80 FX play ?

I changed my mind, didn't use it as BH.
Instead, I used it as FH on Donic Walder Legend Carbon blade. Man, this is a treat to play. I know this blade is fast, but the match allowed me effortless FH loops & loop drives. Push shots were normal, nothing to write home about. Blocking control was above average. I managed to get a lot of feel from this blade. FH counter-hitting, ball just zings off the rubber. I like T80FX over T80 because of more feedback.