forehand too vertical backhand as well

so recently ive been having these bad habit of hitting too vertical on my forehand loop and it give's the ball a very high arc and lots of catapult but also makes it slow as molass, when i say vertical i mean like the racket goes behind my head, and my weight is shifted to the side instead of forward. this might have been cause by me playing tennis lately i love both game and dont want to stop either.

this happen on the backhand as well im simply not putting enough power forward. im brushing too much

in tennis i usually hit more upward not behind my head but more like as soon as i contact the ball i brush upward across my shoulder so i guess now im trying o go upward too much on table tennis and the reason i go behind the head is so i don't hit my temple this is not on purpose but more like instinctively 

any of you guys have this problem?  how did you guys deal with these chinks in your form suddenly?

i think it's in your waist rotation and ball contact timing. when you loop, (assuming you are right handed) pivot your waist and partially your knees towards your right side while bringing your racket beside your right knee. you have to crouch slightly making your right knee near your chest as your dip your body when you do your backswing. contact the ball at the side of your body while you are in that pivot position with an angle 40-45 degrees on the blade. follow through your stroke and finish your body rotation with your racket at the side of your forehead as if making a salute. also when you follow through its like your position is your original ready position where your body is parallel towards the table end. using your left arm as a swinging and leverage object will help your body rotateas you do your loops.

boaspirit wrote: so recently ive been having these bad habit of hitting too vertical on my forehand loop and it give's the ball a very high arc and lots of catapult but also makes it slow as molass, when i say vertical i mean like the racket goes behind my head, and my weight is shifted to the side instead of forward. this might have been cause by me playing tennis lately i love both game and dont want to stop either. this happen on the backhand as well im simply not putting enough power forward. im brushing too much in tennis i usually hit more upward not behind my head but more like as soon as i contact the ball i brush upward across my shoulder so i guess now im trying o go upward too much on table tennis and the reason i go behind the head is so i don't hit my temple this is not on purpose but more like instinctively  any of you guys have this problem?  how did you guys deal with these chinks in your form suddenly?

Hi boaspirit
In troubleshooting strokes you need to look at what has gone before.

You say your swing is too much upward and not enough forward. Therefore, at the beginning your racket must be starting with the racket below the contact point.
You need to consciously line up the racket behind the contact point so that its natural to swing forward at the ball. You may also be letting the ball drop too much.
so go for
weight and racket behind the ball
more closed racket
swing consciously forward

pingpongpaddy wrote: boaspirit wrote: so recently ive been having these bad habit of hitting too vertical on my forehand loop and it give's the ball a very high arc and lots of catapult but also makes it slow as molass, when i say vertical i mean like the racket goes behind my head, and my weight is shifted to the side instead of forward. this might have been cause by me playing tennis lately i love both game and dont want to stop either. this happen on the backhand as well im simply not putting enough power forward. im brushing too much in tennis i usually hit more upward not behind my head but more like as soon as i contact the ball i brush upward across my shoulder so i guess now im trying o go upward too much on table tennis and the reason i go behind the head is so i don't hit my temple this is not on purpose but more like instinctively  any of you guys have this problem?  how did you guys deal with these chinks in your form suddenly? Hi boaspirit In troubleshooting strokes you need to look at what has gone before. You say your swing is too much upward and not enough forward. Therefore, at the beginning your racket must be starting with the racket below the contact point. You need to consciously line up the racket behind the contact point so that its natural to swing forward at the ball. You may also be letting the ball drop too much. so go for weight and racket behind the ball more closed racket swing consciously forward

I did tried it like u said but then my contact was too early and the ball went into the net. i think i need to hit like 100 forehand back and forth with my buddy... as soon as i notice the problem i tried to close the racket more and tired to swing forward but most of the time it goes into the net

There are two basic items which determine the vertical/horizontal ratio of the swing plane.

Edited by mjamja - 05/02/2014 at 2:30pm

It helps if you mentally focus on creating spin i.s.o. focus on speed/power. If you're, like Cronone, unconsciously fear to continue you're forward swing or decelerate before contact, it might help if you make use of keywords like "spin", "accelerate" or something alike.
This could help to overcome bad habits.

I recently first noticed I decelerate my forward swing when looping underspin and then realized I focused and unconsciously reacted on the relatively slow speed of a backsspin ball. After this discovey, whenever I saw a backspin ball, I started using a keyword to focus on the amount of spin instead and as a result I started accelerating my upward snap to overcome the amount of spin.

Thankyou for the tip. What I am really trying to do is solidly get my feet behind the ball and take it more in front of me. I think that it's because I position my body too sideways and take the ball at my side therefore the weight is going vertical but not forward and I'm swiping the ball upwards rather than looping it.

Edited by CroNone - 10/23/2015 at 4:37pm