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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D207YsnOCJ4#t=6571

FZDs looks like ZJKs. Video paused at 1:49:31
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Not a Viscaria handle based on color (no blue layer).  But what is that composite-looking layer on the side of the blade?  It doesn't look like pictures of the VPS, it looks a bit like ALC, but hard for me to tell.  So Zeio, what do you think it is?  Is this a Viscaria with a Stiga handle?


It's hard to tell for sure. The thickness of the spruce doesn't look right, and the smoothness. But given the video source is broadcast in interlaced(1080i) format, then recorded and converted to progressive(720p), and depending on the deinterlacing algorithm, compression artefacts can result for scenes with a lot of motion, like the one at hand.
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Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D207YsnOCJ4#t=6571

FZDs looks like ZJKs. Video paused at 1:49:31

If it weren't for the lens, I could have fallen for it if you told me it's the Petr Korbel.
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Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

I own a VPS, though straight, and this looks like viscaria to me. Others?
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One thing is for sure, the handle looks the same as the one he used for the commercial shoot and the one he used at the National Games 2013. Another common trait is the missing print on the blade face near the shoulder.

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I was hoping someone will come out and claim his uncle handles the equipment transportation of the china national team, and the national team orders bulk composite layer from butterfly and stick them with the Stiga VPS blade layers. Wink
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Someone post pics of FZD's personal blade before but not everyone believe it. It has VPS handle and custom lens but VIS composite plys.

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And this, right out the oven.

Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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This list has been made by a friend (great fan of Zhang JK)

# 2014 CTTSL Women's Club Roster


Club
Player
Bayi
Guo Yue, Mu Zi, Cao Zhen, Liu Xi, Zhang Na
ShandongLi Xiaoxia, Chen Meng, Gu Yuting, Gu Ruochen, Wang Xuan, Liu Ming, Fan Siqi
DatongWu Yang, Li Xiaodan, Liu Gaoyang, Guo Yichen
ShanxiLiu Shiwen, Feng Yalan, Che Xiaoxi, Jiang Yue, Zheng Shichang
JinhuaHu Limei, Si Wen, Yang Yang, Zhou Xintong, Liu Xin, Ariel Hsing (USA)
OrdosZhu Yuling, Zhao Yan, Zhang Qiang, Zhu Zhaohui, Yu Mengyu (Singapore)
GuangdongZhang Chi, Li Yudong, Yang Caiying, Tong Haimiao, Liu Yunci, Wu Jie
Churin KvassLiu Fei, Wang Manyu, Yao Junyu, Chen Ke, Yuan Xuejiao, Zhao Xue, Bai Yanke
WeishanDing Ning, Sheng Dandan, Sun Chen, Li Jiayuan, Cheng I-Ching (Chinese Taipei), Ri Myong Sun (Korea DPR)
Dalian
Wen Jia, Li Jieyi, Chang Chenchen, Chen Xingtong

Note: Churin Kvass - 秋林格瓦斯. Kvass is a fermented beverage made from black or regular rye bread oridinated in Russia. Churin Kvass is the brand name Kvass drink manufactured in China with its first factory opened in Harbin by a Russian business man Churin in 1900.


Edited by janus700 - 06/01/2014 at 12:40pm
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Originally posted by janus700 janus700 wrote:

# SHANDONG Vs ORDOS [1st Stage(Women)/Round2/May21]  

1. Gu Yuting - Zhu Yuling @ 11:56
2. Chen Meng - Zhang Qiang @ 59:58
3. Gu Yuting / Li Xiaoxia Vs Zhao Yan / Zhu Zhaohui @ 1:44:46



Shandong: Li Xiaoxia, Chen Meng, Gu Yuting, Gu Ruochen, Wang Xuan, Liu Ming, Fan Siqi
Ordos: Zhu Yuling, Zhao Yan, Zhang Qiang, Zhu Zhaohui, Yu Mengyu
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The match "2. Chen Meng - Zhang Qiang @ 59:58" should be of great interest to Penhold/RPB players.

I have never seen this young player, Zhang Qiang, before.


Edited by skip3119 - 05/28/2014 at 8:59am
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

And this, right out the oven.

when Zeio talks the Gods are silent.
 
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I am appalled at that picture...
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Blue Tenergy Sponge, Stiga Viscaria. What a conspiracy. 
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I am appalled at that picture...


I think we have to accept that we really can't be sure of anything in this world. Scary times.

I wonder how many pros are using a Primorac with a Viscaria handle to balance this out?
This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated.
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That´s a Fake Infinity V  for sure Big smileLOL

Edited by jonyer1980 - 05/28/2014 at 11:11am
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can somebody decipher the serial number? maybe that blade will come to market at some point :)



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We should probably throw all of this into the equipment thread so as not to bog down the CTTSL stuff. But even the side on looks identical to viscaria, at least the ones that I have. 
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... and this is Ma Long's blade:


Don't believe everything you see. Smile

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Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

when Zeio talks the Gods are silent.
 Zeio is the best detective


Nah, that honor goes to the persons posting those pictures. I just forward what have been posted.
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Originally posted by Pondus Pondus wrote:

... and this is Ma Long's blade:


Don't believe everything you see. Smile


Nice one!
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+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

can somebody decipher the serial number? maybe that blade will come to market at some point :)




N023304KYY4?

Tried to match that serial number on the butterfly-china site, says no record.
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote assiduous Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/28/2014 at 3:50pm
Originally posted by Pondus Pondus wrote:

... and this is Ma Long's blade:

Don't believe everything you see. Smile

Pondus, I know you don't mean that, but what you did is a common practice to destroy the credibility of some surfaced truth. You mix it with lies, over exaggerate it and turn it into one of those conspiracy theories that will later be discredited and the whole thing, together with the truth in it, will be dismissed. This is what the US government did with 9/11 to hide the fact that they themselves blew the pentagon and WTTC7 to get rid of the search for the missing $2 trillion and other evidence. They pumped these conspiracy theories about the whole thing being a government job, but nothing checked out, and the whole thing got dismissed and went away, conveniently with the search for the missing money and a bunch of other evidence (reading).
Now you photoshop Ma Longs paddle and you immediately reduce the importance of all images on the internet. Lets not forget that some of that stuff is actually real, and everyone should use their own judgement about what to believe and what to discard. If  you believe everything or discard everything you are going to be off either way.
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Originally posted by TurboZ TurboZ wrote:




Look at the badge on the bottom of the handle!  Looks like a Btfly badge!  Strange.
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So who won between FZD and ZJK? Only the first two sets were transmitted...
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Originally posted by seguso seguso wrote:

So who won between FZD and ZJK? Only the first two sets were transmitted...


ZJK won by 3:0 after winning the third set (11:1)

Edited by zjkfanforever - 05/28/2014 at 5:57pm
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And what do you think happened? I think ZJK won strategically, but I am not sure how. He was blocking a lot. And FZD seemed to have a lot of problems returning his serves.
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Originally posted by seguso seguso wrote:

And what do you think happened? I think ZJK won strategically, but I am not sure how. He was blocking a lot. And FZD seemed to have a lot of problems returning his serves.


According to the report, it's a combination of a few things. FZD was under pressure to perform well as Bayi's No. 1 guy this season and he made many unforced errors as a result; ZJK was able to control the game so that FZD wasn't able to get his game going as planned; when things did not go his way, FZD basically gave up in the last two sets. Wang Hao was reportedly mad at FZD after the game for lack of fighting spirit. ZJK also talked with FZD after the game trying to help him find out why he lost the way he lost.
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I think I understand what could have happened. These guys are humans...
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"We have played many times before, but I fell too far behind in this match. It was a very hard match. Perhaps today I was totally shut down by him, and I just didn't get any chance. He scored a big lead early on in the game, and there were not that many ways for me to turn the tide." Fan summarized the match.

When asked what Zhang Jike said to him after the match, he replied "I was told the outcome is not important, that it is best to see me fight for every point, and to never give up the match so easily."

Edited by zeio - 05/28/2014 at 8:23pm
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Found a link that has only one match:  Chen Meng vs Zhang Qiang.
(Janus700's post has far more matches.)

This should be of great interest to Penhold/RPB players.

ITTF May 2014 ranked Chen Meng as #4 in the world.
(As for Zhang Qiang, I have never heard this young player before. Thanks to Janus700's post.)



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote assiduous Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/28/2014 at 9:14pm
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

"We have played many times before, but I fell too far behind in this match. It was a very hard match. Perhaps today I was totally shut down by him, and I just didn't get any chance. He scored a big lead early on in the game, and there were not that many ways for me to turn the tide." Fan summarized the match.

When asked what Zhang Jike said to him after the match, he replied "I was told the outcome is not important, that it is best to see me fight for every point, and to never give up the match so easily."
great bits - thank you!
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