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bns7117
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Hello, All
I am currently trying to update my YEO cpen. the blade is a little too hard for my liking. But it's a great attacking blade. I am trying to find something with a softer outer ply and harder core, maybe with carbon layers. The new blade should be able to emphasis on looping more than powerful smashes, and have better short games yet still have gears(just enough power) in mid-distance. I have tried plenty of carbon blades including regular carbon, arylate carbon, glass-fiber carbon, they are a little too bouncy for my short game. Right now, i am thinking about NExy Arirang cpen, but if someone have some better recommendations, please share some thoughts. Thank you. |
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zeio
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Try Yasaka Extra.
The YEO has a really hard outer ply. It has a sharp feel in the short game, but takes skills to tap into its potential off the table. |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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I switched from the YEO to the Ma Lin Carbon. It is softer, less bouncy, more controlled than the YEO but still very much offensive. Blocking is also easier thanks to the backbone and larger sweet spot the carbon layers supply, and although the dwell takes getting used to for the short game and backhand coming from the YEO, once adjusted it works beautifully. I highly recommend it (I also have one for sale in cpen).
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TurboZ
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Stiga Intensity NCT Carbon with deep discount should not be missed.
http://www.ttex.se/stiga-blade-intensity-carbon-p-2315.html |
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khmd
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You may take a try of Stiga sense 7.6.
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the_theologian
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Yasaka Extra or Ma Lin Soft Carbon
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Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max
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shaolinTT
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You may end up going back to YEO. I did.
Why not try a different rubber instead.
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rick_ys_ho
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acoustic, which i would recommend.
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Too many choices out there... it really depends on your level & preference to vibration, hardness, & weight....below are my choices from my experiences that can play well off the table as well as near & offers excellent hand feel without too much vibrations
Stiga Rosewood V Stiga Infinity Stiga Offensive Wood NCT Yinhe VF5 DHS HH656, HK655, Long2 I have some of these for sale too, btw Edited by PingPongHolic10 - 08/13/2014 at 8:40am |
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Hardbat: Valor Champion/FH/BH-Valor Premier-OX
Regular:Valor Big Stick FH-Apollo II & BH-Globe 979 OX |
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bns7117
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thank you all for the input! i will look into those recommendations thoroughly. thank you!
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bns7117
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I am keeping my yep for third-ball attack games, i have softer rubbers, still lacks some "touch" for short games and loops... |
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bns7117
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where can I get yinhe VF5? it looks intriguing. |
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khmd
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I tried carbo 7.6 loved the feeling! soft touch in table, and tons of
kicks away from talbe, problem is its hard to find lighter weight with
that series, sense 7.6 is pretty much identical to carbo 7.6?
Sense 7.6 is improved version of carbon 7.6 with better control and feel. You can ask the seller to pick a particular weight for you. I assume that you would need one for 84-86 g: http://tabletennisequipment.dandoy-sports.com/en/index.php?cName=blades-penholder |
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bns7117
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Thanks, khmd!
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V-Griper
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There is also the BTY Taksim which is the cpen version of the viscaria, and the T5000 CS which is the cpen version of the TBS. There is also the ALC in cpen. I have not played with these blades personally. You will have to try to find them used as I am not sure they are still produced.
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DHS 301
Xiom Vega 7pro FH/BH |
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TurboZ
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Many Butterfly Cpens are only available in China and still in production. A friend brought back a ZJK ZLC Cpen when it was released but never use.
Edited by TurboZ - 08/13/2014 at 9:23pm |
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stefashka
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I bought one from Eacheng. Not bad, but NE 50 which I bought together with VF 50 provides better feel and control. To the OP: YEO is one of the best PH blades, especially when it comes to the short game and playing offensively close to table, it's very nicely balanced in terms of smashing and looping, so it would be quite a problem to find a replacement if you like both aspects. If you look for a more "looping" blade and want to move to mid-distance, Stiga Rosewood/ Yinhe NR50 would be the closest answer. Nexy Peterpan is also very good in looping/blocking/short game, it just doesn't smash reliably.
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Darker 7P-2A CP - Dignics 09c, TSP Curl P3α
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ChichoFicho
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Chinese Real is first that comes to mind. Not sure where you can find it though.
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Darker Speed 70
Hammond FA Speed Tyotokusen |
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TT newbie
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If you find YEO too hard go to the best 5-plies blade available: Hurricane Hao.
There´s no mistake.
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bns7117
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THanks, Taksim looks nice, its as fast as viscaria? |
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bns7117
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Yeah, YEO does have a nice balance between smashing and looping, its like 60/40 ratio. I just tried peter pan, it is indeed very good in looping/blocking/short games. |
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bns7117
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Hurricane Hao II looks really nice, but the reviews say it lacks speed, however it seems to excel in looping. Thanks for the recommendation, i forgot about HH. |
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Lacking speed is relative. Depending on your style it can be very fast. I use a H-Hao cpen and a short pip rubber on one side only, playing traditional chinese penhold style. And my forehand is fast, at least my opponents say so.
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V-Griper
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It is the viscaria. The only difference is that it is shaped for cpen and they changed the name, otherwise the construction is the same.
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DHS 301
Xiom Vega 7pro FH/BH |
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zeio
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Contrary to popular belief, Taksim is not the equivalent of Viscaria. Owing to their similar handle design, it is easy to mix up the two as having the same construction when the Taksim is in fact a 7.0mm blade made up of ayous/ALC/ayous/kiri/-/-/- whereas the Viscaria is a 5.8mm blade of koto/ALC/ayous/kiri(not the perpetually erroneous balsa)/-/-/-.
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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bns7117
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Does HH series have bigger head than most cpens? Wang hao's cpen looks huge. You right, it does depend on playing style. It would be nice if i can try it at least once before making a purchase. :( |
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qualizon
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I'd suggest the Wang Hao blade as well, if you are looking at the commercial version, be sure to get the all wood HH 656, the HH 3 that has one layer of carbon fiber layer is not recommended.
But if you have the budget, I'd even recommend go all the way for N656 or N656-1, these are the version DSH specially made for provincial team and national team.
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TT newbie
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I don´t think so. H-Hao head is even smaller than Avalox P700. H-Hao measures 163x150 while P700 has a 163x152 head. I find both pretty big. New Stiga cpens comes with ideal head size, imo: 159x149. Problem is they are too hard for me, Rosewood and Ebenholz.
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