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2014 [17th] Asian Games [VIDEOS HD] |
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[Oct 3] WD-SF1: LIU Shiwen/WU Yang - KIM Jong/KIM Hyesong [HD] [Full Match/Chinese]
[Oct 3] WD-SF2: Cheng Meng/Zhu Yuling - Lee Ho Ching/NG Wing Nam [HD] [ Full Match] Edited by janus700 - 10/03/2014 at 6:42pm |
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[Oct 3] WD-Final: Liu Shiwen/Wu Yang - Cheng Meng/Zhu Yuling [HD] [Full Match/Chinese]
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[Oct3] Mixed doubles-Final: Lee Ho Ching/Jiang Tianyi - Kim Hyokbong/Kim Jong [HD]
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[Oct 4] MS-SF2: FAN Zhendong Vs CHUANG Chih Yuan [HD] [Full Match/Chinese]
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[October 4] # MS-Final: XU Xin Vs FAN Zhendong [HD] [Full match/Chinese]
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Great thread, thanks for sharing these wonderful videos!
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XuXin versus JooSeHyuk,
men's single SF, please give us full-lenght video. |
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[Oct 4] # WS-SF: ZHU Yuling - FENG Tianwei [HD] [Full Match/Chinese]
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[Oct 4] # WS-Final: LIU Shiwen - ZHU Yuling [HD] [Full* Match/Chinese]
*Note: a part of the 2nd set is missing
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Short form Thanks Janus700! |
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trying to watch the W S F, but its really hard. I think the motion that women use to hit the ball should not be called a stroke. It is more like a muscle twitch. Very short, off the table to take advantage of you opponent's speed since you can't generate your own, it is just plain painful to watch. I am surprised the Chinese have not developed females with actual table tennis strokes. This thing is a joke, and should be called ping pong, to designate the separation from table tennis.
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puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out
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===================================== You must know the strokes in order to know that Liu Shiwen and Zhu Yuling don't have strokes. What is your own assessment about your chance to beat Liu Shiwen or Zhu Yuling in terms of %. For example, you think you have 25% chance, 50%, 75% or 90% chance to beat either one of those two women players? Please let us know your own assessment. If any forummer interested in assessing assiduous' chance to win, please feel free to give your assessment. *** You can post your assessment here, or you can PM me your assessment. ***
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[Oct 4] MS-Final: XU Xin - FAN Zhendong [HD] [Full Match|Short Form]
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Another "Short Form" in Full HD by Stef [MT-Final (match 3) Zhang Jike - Muramatsu Yuto]
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=================================== Good point, I have not seen that either. Ma Long had a very hard time to beat Joo in the team event, yet Xu Xin won easily in the men's singles when facing Joo. Just don't know what XX has got but ML doesn't have? When playing against the pips chopper (Joo), there is a world difference in performance between XX and ML. Interesting to see the video XX vs Joo if it is available.
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Yes, I Want to see this match too. Joo and Ma Long are teammates in the Chinese Super League. Usually, this should mean that Ma Long should have an easier time with Joo, but obviously, something is different.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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TEAM FINAL - highlights form Epic match Edited by 109eh - 10/05/2014 at 3:48pm |
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xu xin vs joo
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Looking at the match, the big difference is that Xu Xin is a lefty.
I take that back - it's Xu Xin's height and grip - he just gets that sidespin to lift chop more easily. Edited by NextLevel - 10/04/2014 at 10:51pm |
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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==================================== Thanks for the video. I knew the scores before watching this video. (Turns out to be the same.) Joo got 2, 5, 2, 7. A total of 16 points - averaged 4 points per game. XX won easily and comfortably. ----------------------------------------------------------------- What about Ma Long? In team's match ML played Joo. (ML won). 1st game: 11 - 9 (ML won in a close game.) 2nd game: 11- 9 (ML won another close game.) 3rd game: 10 - 12 (ML lost this game.) 4th game: 17 - 15 (Joo had a huge lead, but ML caught up. Joo at least had one game point, may be more, but couldn't make it. In the end ML won 17 -15.) XX isn't any better than ML, why the outcome was so different. (even though both of them won)? My guess is that some players just know how to play pips choppers than others. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I remember that Shiono Masato beat several world top-50 players in Japan Open (CCY was his first victim), but subsequently a player ranked 80th, or so, in the world beat Masato in the US Open quite easily. Edited by skip3119 - 10/04/2014 at 11:41pm |
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End of match expressions: ML and XX vs Joo.
ML: You can see ML was so happy as if he told himself - "Thank God, I won." XX: Not much of an expression, it was an easy win, no competition what-so-ever.
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I volunteer. Honestly, I think he has zero chance against these two no-stroke women. I also suggest he will be overpowered by these two women with their muscle twitch, resulting in many outright kills where he doesn't even touch the ball. Frankly, these two women probably can beat up any high level players, male or female, in the USA.
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What's even more incredible is that he probably hasn't played women rated higher than him in USATT tournaments who would show him how effective these strokes are. But then again, this is the same person who believes that Timo Boll, Dima Ovtcharov, Vladimir Samsonov and Michael Maze have bad looping form.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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what XX has got but ML doesn't have? Well, XX is lefty and he plays angle lot better than a righty. The big reason is XX's forehand shot is just more powerful than ML. Then you may say, why XX doesn't seems to hold up hand against ML in forehand exchange? The reason is XX is slow and his swing motion has wide radius so he has to hit his forehand further away from table while ML is fast and be able to stay closer to the table. Plus, due to XX's penhold style, he has to cover a wider area with forehand resulting him hitting the ball on its down from the peak so he has to impact more spin, thus, further reducing the power. When playing a chopper, it is totally different situation. It is slow pace that enables XX to stay close the table, exerting his fearsome power. Unlike ML, many XX's shots were just too powerful that Joo didn't even touch the ball. Did I mention he was lefty earlier? XX played Joo several times, every time, XX not only beat him but beat him with ease. Basically, to measure one's absolute power, you can see how he handles a chopper. If one can routinely make killer shots against the best chopper, then he has the power. Only very few players can make a great chopper like Joo helpless. XX is the one, Chen Qi is another one who happens also a lefty and well known for his pure forehand power. Joo's compatriot, retired Ryu was also effective against Joo. Not surprisingly, Ryu is also well known for his forehand power.
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Yes, for XX, it's no biggie, as he had played Joo several times in the past and every time, he just absolutely dismantled Joo. Playing ML, Joo had all the fighting spirit while playing XX, Joo just didn't have much will power to put a decent resist. It shows XX's power is just that overwhelming even Joo knew he didn't have much chance. As matter of fact, Chinese team and TV thought there was no suspense at all about the result between XX and Joo, they didn't even bother to broadcast that match.
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I could not find the match between XX and Joo. Link please! Thanks
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# Just now there is an unpublished video of this match in my channel:
[Oct 4] MS-SF1: XU Xin Vs JOO Se Hyuk [Full match/poor quality] # Finally published!
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Wow. Not much Joo could do to handle XuXin's power, placement, and variation of spins (the flat shots created more difficulty for Joo). Joo tried to play offense with his backhand, from which he actually made a point. I am wondering how good Joo could be if he were a offense player.
Enjoyed it. Thank you Janus 700.
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assiduous:
When you saw my post, you pretty much knew my assessment: You have ZERO % chance to beat those two "no-strokes women players". Now with the 2 forummers here expressed the same, we have 3 guys here came to the same conclusion. Skip
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