Wet Ball let

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   On the third or fourth shot of the rally, the ball just falls off my racket as I try to topspin it back.  I look at my racket  and there is a wet ball mark on it.  Not wet all over, but about the size of a dime.
Am I justified in asking for a let if I can show my opponent the wet mark on the racket?

It seems that under 9.4 I could since the ball getting wet is a disturbance of the conditions of play.

9.4.4 Because the conditions of play are disturbed in a way which could affect the outcome of the rally.

However, I also remember something about a player not getting 2 chances to play a point.  That is, the player must call for the let before striking the ball so that they do not get a chance to see how their attempt went before asking for the let.  I could not find that in the rules when I looked.  Of course with a wet ball there is no way to call for the let before striking it since you have no way of knowing it is wet until you hit it.

I vaguely remember this being discussed before, but I could not find it with the search function.

Mark

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mjamja Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Platinum Member Joined: 05/30/2009 Status: Offline Points: 2895	Post Options Post Reply Quote mjamja Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Wet Ball let Posted: 12/04/2014 at 1:03am
	On the third or fourth shot of the rally, the ball just falls off my racket as I try to topspin it back. I look at my racket and there is a wet ball mark on it. Not wet all over, but about the size of a dime. Am I justified in asking for a let if I can show my opponent the wet mark on the racket? It seems that under 9.4 I could since the ball getting wet is a disturbance of the conditions of play. 9.4.4 Because the conditions of play are disturbed in a way which could affect the outcome of the rally. However, I also remember something about a player not getting 2 chances to play a point. That is, the player must call for the let before striking the ball so that they do not get a chance to see how their attempt went before asking for the let. I could not find that in the rules when I looked. Of course with a wet ball there is no way to call for the let before striking it since you have no way of knowing it is wet until you hit it. I vaguely remember this being discussed before, but I could not find it with the search function. Mark

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NextLevel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 12/15/2011 Location: Somewhere Good Status: Offline Points: 14842	Post Options Post Reply Quote NextLevel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/04/2014 at 6:57am
	A wet ball let is an example of play being disturbed by conditions that could affect the rally. Whether the word 'let' applies or not, the point should be replayed.
	I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train...

ghostzen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Member Joined: 08/15/2010 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 881	Post Options Post Reply Quote ghostzen Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/04/2014 at 8:05am
	I think if you have a umpire in a serious match you may get away with trying to call a let but then again you may not because the player you are playing may think you are trying to pull a fast one... If it were a serve and i was serving i would say let the player have the let. If the ball dies off my bat after 4-5 shots then its a bit of a different kettle of fish. I always thought that disturbed playing 9.4.4 rule was if a ball came over, a barrier was knocked onto the court or if a player was disturbed during play by an outisde issue.

NextLevel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 12/15/2011 Location: Somewhere Good Status: Offline Points: 14842	Post Options Post Reply Quote NextLevel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/04/2014 at 8:09am
	All you have to do is show the spot of sweat on the racket. When a ball dies off the paddle because of sweat, it is unlike anything other than a heavy backspin serve. If the opponent is the sweaty one, it makes no sense to give them a double reward if they served a sweaty ball. Edited by NextLevel - 12/04/2014 at 8:09am
	I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train...

mahomedy13 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 10/24/2014 Location: South Africa Status: Offline Points: 140	Post Options Post Reply Quote mahomedy13 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/04/2014 at 8:18am
	You are justified,but sometimes umpires dont know the rules 100%,so dont call for a replay.