Samsonov beaten..... by senior citizen??

http://youtu.be/hvLXcWoz6FY

fall_river wrote: http://youtu.be/hvLXcWoz6FY

Edited by skip3119 - 03/03/2015 at 12:50pm

Is Li Zhi-Ming (2270), a LP player, a top player in the US?

Correction of my earlier post:

Edited by skip3119 - 03/03/2015 at 1:13pm

Samsonov can easily beat him if the game continued. A good long pip players are hard to beat in first game at least, need time to adjust to.

Just sharing

The old guy did beat Samsonov that game. I think it was 11-6.

It certainly is possible for a lower rated long pips player to beat very high rated players..

In 2013, I played against Khai Zheng.. He was 2670 rated or so and I was mid 2100's... He won but I almost took him to 5 games. I won game 2 and was leading 9:7 in game 3.. He ended up winning in 4 games but it was not a walk in the park for him. The problem, he tried to beat me with vigorous topspin attacks which really works in my favor as my entire game is set up to beat topspin attackers. Many playes will slow down their game in order to beat me. Khai Zheng didn't and that's why it was more difficult for him than for other players of his level.  I've beaten players as high as 2478 rated in tournaments..  It is not impossible to have a huge upset if the matchup works in favor of the long pips player.. Zhi-Ming Li actually beat Casba Bence when Casba Bence was rated well into the 2600's..

Just watched the video, Li won with score 3-2.

People sometimes posted fun videos for serious topic discussions...

I have a serious question for the topic owner:
How many $$$ the old man offered Samsonov to loss this match?

AgentHEX wrote: > For Li Zhi-Ming vs Huang Jian Jiang, it was 3-0. I can't see how this is any more serious than the Samsonov one given WJJ is similarly dressed in a fricking sweater. Counting skills are also suspect given WJJ wins at least two sets.

Edited by skip3119 - 03/03/2015 at 6:35pm

>Update:  I wouldn't throw out comment on any match that I have never watched.
As far as the match that I have given link, I watched many times.  Besides, many folks here have watched that match also. 

Well, everyone who watch for themselves can assess the relevant counting skills here.

> Then tried using inverted, not working.

WJJ also doesn't use inverted, btw.

If someone doesn't play against LPs at their own level regularly they can be at a significant disadvantage. But a better player is more likely to figure out something that works and then win with it.

Tinykin wrote: Pushblocker wrote: It certainly is possible for a lower rated long pips player to beat very high rated players.. In 2013, I played against Khai Zheng.. He was 2670 rated or so and I was mid 2100's... He won but I almost took him to 5 games. I won game 2 and was leading 9:7 in game 3.. He ended up winning in 4 games but it was not a walk in the park for him. The problem, he tried to beat me with vigorous topspin attacks which really works in my favor as my entire game is set up to beat topspin attackers. Many playes will slow down their game in order to beat me. Khai Zheng didn't and that's why it was more difficult for him than for other players of his level.  I've beaten players as high as 2478 rated in tournaments..  It is not impossible to have a huge upset if the matchup works in favor of the long pips player.. Zhi-Ming Li actually beat Casba Bence when Casba Bence was rated well into the 2600's.. I am not trying to diminish your achievement. But most times when advanced players see push blockers as competent as you, they will try to hit through you just to see if they can do it. To them, slowing the game etc is just too boring and proves nothing. Timing the ball and getting into position for a drive is much more challenging and in the end, more fun and a learning experience. I have seen it many times. Many times the PB wins. It depends on the circumstances.

I think that players in tournaments play to win and won't risk to lose a game or match, trying to prove that they can win a certain way.. practice is a different story.

mts388 wrote: Pushblocker wrote: Tinykin wrote: [QUOTE=Pushblocker]It certainly is possible for a lower rated long pips player to beat very high rated players.. I am not trying to diminish your achievement. But most times when advanced players see push blockers as competent as you, they will try to hit through you just to see if they can do it. To them, slowing the game etc is just too boring and proves nothing. Timing the ball and getting into position for a drive is much more challenging and in the end, more fun and a learning experience. I have seen it many times. Many times the PB wins. It depends on the circumstances. I think that players in tournaments play to win and won't risk to lose a game or match, trying to prove that they can win a certain way.. practice is a different story. I think there are many players for whatever reason use tournament matches as practice matches.

sure, that's possible but I don't get it.. if I play a tournament, I play each match as good as I can..