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aroonkl 
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Tenergy + Dianchi or Falco.
Which one do you suggest? Spin wise. |
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Lol. If youre having a hard time generating spin with a superior rubber such as that, you need to spend time on technique. Not worrying about which glue or booster to use.
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Use Falcons long , T05 sound sound like a woodpecker after 3 layer
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Asifgunz , you have no clue what level Aroonkl play at so let not talk about technique
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I don't need to know his level of play. Tenergy is a superior rubber by popular demand. If he needs booster or glue to get an effect out of an already superior rubber, I can definitely question his technique. That's the beauty of internet.
He asked what we would suggest. I replied, better technique. |
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I could say, Dianchi is better than Falco Long, due to its thinner fluid.
And, more important, Dianchi is stronger in term of effect, so you don't need a thick heavy layer like Falco, if bat weight is also crucial. |
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There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
Falco is not a booster |
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http://www.mytischtennis.de/public/fotos/355/ndm-2015---die-schlaeger-der-deutschen-stars/5
Look like these top Germany players have problem with their technique.  If you could not tell their rubbers are boosted, educate yourself. It is really beauty of the internet when one could comment on anything. But when you show off yourself with no clue what you are talking about. Kind of embarrassing. Don't you think. 
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My experience was that with booster you will get only speed out of it. Not spin. Totally uncontrollable tool.
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Dymax Maximizer! Rubber plays softer and spin increases. |
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Boosting a tensored rubber would only kill the sheet in my opinion. The rubber is already formulated for tension and by boosting it, you'll be stretching it even more. You may get a period of extra speed, but after that I think the rubber will just die.
You posted a link to bats used by professionals. While they might get some benefit out of it, they also have an endless supply of Tenergy that they can use at request.
Not worth destroying a $70 piece of rubber that's already top of the class IMO. |
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http://www.mytischtennis.de/public/fotos/355/ndm-2015---die-schlaeger-der-deutschen-stars/5
made me look at those blades and rubbers, (I never looked at them all) but it did seem like the non tenergy rubbers were the most boosted, the other thing is what does pictures of high level players bats have relevance to anything? |
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What booster did you try?
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I boosted my T05 with 2 layers of Falco Long and I am testing it tonight. It performed noticeably worse after 2 months and about 6 removals so I boosted it.
It is true that boosting kills rubbers but if you train regularly like 15 hours a week, you will not get most out of any rubber than 3 months, boosted or unboosted. |
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 This is how Boosted Tenergy look like. Topic Tenergy + Dianchi & Falco boost Effect: ? Experience from other members: ? Relevance: To my skill and I don't do proper technique??? Relevance: To your understanding???
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Lol just because some German Pros* boost their rubbers, doesn't mean you have to as well. If the Pros jump off 10 story buildings, does it mean you will too ? You're not a German Pro*. and there's no way you play at their* level lmao.
I wasn't showing off. I don't use tenergy because it spoils technique. You opened the discussion to everyone. Hence I put in my 2 cents. It's up to you whether or not you will go that route. |
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boosting tenergy is like putting a loud 30 dollar ebay muffler on a 100 000 $ sports car, to make it go faster. You ruin your otherwise great rubber, you make it softer which is bad, you make the properties variable and deteriorating literally every day. And on top of that you lose control. I am sure some pros boost, but definitely not all, and most likely none of the best. Not for moral principles or legality, but just because its stupid.
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All pros have probably tried boosting, whether Tenergy or other.
A very few have tried boosting and never bothered after that. Some pros personally boost using about 5 different brands. Some use a light 1-layer boost. Some use a multi-layer application. Some have their rubbers prepared by professional boosters. Take your pick if you want to be like the pros. The advanced amateurs/semi-pro, (many of which play at same standard as pros) are probably 50/50 whether they boost or not. I suspect that most don't as the gain is too small to bother with the hassle and cost. Edited by Tinykin - 04/15/2015 at 2:26am |
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If you could not tell rational samples and you try. Or something stupid and you try/follow are different thing. Never mind.
If your technique is spoiled bc of Tenergy. It is really your tq is low.
I did not open laughable discussion as "Would I play like a Pro if I boost my Tenergy?" or " If I boost my Tenergy, my rating would go up 200+?" My topic is Tenergy + booster for members who could share experience. Please have 2 cents.
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So you mean Pro players boost, equivilant to pro driver would put $30 on their $100000 cars.
Decade ago, we put speed glue on great rubbers like Sriver & Bryce (Bryce was initially announced as catapult effected and needed no glue.) They went softer after gluing which were bad???
Really? Name some please. Tops who are not boosting their rubbers. ( Joo with P1-Curl?)
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Poor aroonkl, let the guy try boosting what he wants. Who cares if he's right or wrong. If he doesn't like it he will stop boosting it. This thread has been derailed. Let's try getting it back on track. I'm sorry aroonkl, I don't know which booster is best for you. Maybe some others can shed some more light to help you out.
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Falco and TRF works well on Tenergy, just one layer if the rubber is new. More layers and the rubber gets too soft and mushy.
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My technique has nothing to do with tenergy. I have tried it before. Its too easy to play with.
Good luck. Looking forward to see you in the next German Open.
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As a regular T05 user (at night I even sleep on a pillowcase made out of Tenergy), I like to brush a layer of Falco on my older Tenergy rubbers with no life left or if they have shrunk from sitting in a baggie for too long. Tenergy topsheet is almost always good, but the sponge does wear out after a while. Booster can remedy this, albeit for a short time.
Of course I don't put booster on a brand new Tenergy, but I can understand if people want to do that. But removing the glue from a blade that had a falco boosted rubber on it is harder because it becomes a little bit oily, so the glue doesn't roll up into those little balls. It smears a lot. Edited by LOOPMEISTER - 04/15/2015 at 10:11am |
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Tenergy is too easy to play with. And as you mentioned it also spoils your technique. Cut the BS and get trained. LOL.
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I do the same thing. After about 3-4 month of play the T05 the sponge seems to loose its springyness and comes back to life with booster for another 4-6 weeks or so. I have done this several times with Falco booster and the rubber is good enough for practice but I would not want to use it in a tournament. It just feels different. I have now tried the same thing with Dymax Maximizer and the rubber feels much livelier and better than with Falco. I recently also booster a new T05 with Dymax (just one layer though) and it feels a little bit softer but I really liked the overall feel. It's closer to the odl speed glue feel compared to Falco. If you wanted to boost a new T05 (and do not like a softer feel too much) I would recommend to get a heavy sheet and then use Dymax. Apply only 1 layer initially and go from there.
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Once you boost your rubber it turns into another different one and there´s no way to go back even if you wait for the boost effect dissapear in a few weeks.
IMO, any booster i have tried adds spin, just only around 15-20% more speed. Even if you overboost or make an uneven boosting job, every single ball will go down out just to the net. Boosters are fine but just only a thin layer on Euro rubbers. Chinese need even 2-3 layers. Everybody knows 100% pros boost their rubbers, if still really think that none of the best don´t boost, then you must be so naive or definitly you haven´t seen any pro-players playing close to you.
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If only you took your own advice regarding training; we would have one less thread. |
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Like you said if it's that easy to play with your "great" technique why didn't you stay with it ? I boost because I enjoy the feel and sound the T05 makes , and no an old guy like myself will never it to the German leagues ,
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The way you comment on Tenergy, easy to play with/spoil your technique/ Tenergy is too jumpy. And looked down my skills when I asked other to share experience with boost Tenergy. Kind of strange when you talk like a high level player preaching. Make me wonder if you make to 2000 or even 1800 yet.
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