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    Posted: 05/26/2015 at 6:31am
Hello,
I want to find the hardest ESN rubber.
I've tried several chinese rubber (H3, H2, TG3), but it's not consistent, the quality changes from batch to batch.
I'm finding the hardest rubber with:
- Hardest sponge possible (should be > 50 degree in ESN hardness scale)
- Thin but not too soft top sheet (I've tried the new Cornilleau X51, but the topsheet is too soft for me)

Thank you,
In the ESN Scale, I found several rubber, with hardness about 50 degree.

 RÉF.MARQUE DÉSIGNATIONDURETÉENERGIERACDISPO.
infos		PRIX €
(à partir de)		 
                                 
0001096a - REV. RASANT POWERGRIP0001096ANDRO REV. RASANT POWERGRIP50 Oui 23.5 19.5 12.5 47.95en savoir plus
0001049a - REV. ROXON 500 PRO0001049ANDRO REV. ROXON 500 PRO50 Oui 23.5 19 12.5 41.95en savoir plus
0000731a - REV. BLUEFIRE M1 TURBO0000731DONICREV. BLUEFIRE M1 TURBO50 oui 23.5 19.5 12.5 48.90en savoir plus
0000682a - REV. MAXXX 5000000682JOOLA REV. MAXXX 50050 Oui 23.5 19 12.5 43.90en savoir plus
0000437a - REV. CALIBRA LT PLUS0000437STIGA REV. CALIBRA LT PLUS50 Oui 23 19 12.5 46.90en savoir plus
0000336a - REV. MARK V HPS0000336YASAKA REV. MARK V HPS50 Oui 22 18 13 48.90en savoir plus


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You should try Bty spin art
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Tau or Thor or China.
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Originally posted by adishorul adishorul wrote:

You should try Bty spin art

That's not ESN!
OSP Ultimate; Dr. Neubauer Dominance Spin Hard max, Dr. Neubauer Troublemaker 0.5

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Originally posted by Matt Pimple Matt Pimple wrote:

Originally posted by adishorul adishorul wrote:

You should try Bty spin art

That's not ESN!

You are right, another factory, different name (high tension), same story :)
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Sponge hardness list posted on OOAK:
http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=24689
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As several have said; Xiom Tau by a mile.
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Originally posted by GMan4911 GMan4911 wrote:

Sponge hardness list posted on OOAK:
http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=24689


this list is outdated.
Correct me if I'm wrong. This is the list based on your proposition.

1. Victas VS-402  (57 degree)
2. Tau (54 degree)
3. Thors (53 degree)
4. Cornilleau X51 (51 degree)
5. Cornilleau U50 (50 degree)
6. Rasant Power (50 degree)
7. Roxon 500 (50 degree)
8. BlueFireM1 (50 degree)
9. Joola Maxxx 50 (50 degree)
10. Calibra LT (50)
11. Mark V HPS (50)

but this is just the sponge hardness. the topsheet is important too.
I dont like the soft topsheet, I really want to find a thin, hard topsheet.
I'm using Cornilleau U50, which I really like it. But I want to find something with harder sponge, and may be same top sheet. The ProGT X51, the sponge is harder, but the topsheet is softer.
May be, I will try the hardest in the scale: Victas or Thors or Tau ....
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