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    Posted: 07/25/2015 at 5:19am
I know anyone who is a fan of Joo Saehyuk gets really excited when he attacks a ball with his pips, so I know it is possible to attack with these pips, I know all about how chopping works and whatnot with these pips, but I want to know from you guys how is attacking working out for you? And how do you attack with these pips? I'm used to a more stiff LP and not as long, so it is very different for me.
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I don't think Joo Saehyuk has used P1r for a couple of years now... If he has come back to these pips then someone can correct me. I use Globe 979 OX which allow me to attack as well as defend away from the table. 979's pips are very soft and allow for offensive strokes.
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feint long 2 is great for chopping and attacking too...
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There is a nice grip with p1r that makes attack possible,I can attack effectively even in ox on Defplay senso
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Originally posted by gnopgnipster gnopgnipster wrote:

I don't think Joo Saehyuk has used P1r for a couple of years now... If he has come back to these pips then someone can correct me. I use Globe 979 OX which allow me to attack as well as defend away from the table. 979's pips are very soft and allow for offensive strokes.
As far as I know, all of the places I've checked and people I've spoken with, he currently uses TSP Curl P-1R
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When I first tried P1-r, the first thing that jumped out to me was how well I could attack with it. It's great at attacking. 
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Originally posted by beeray1 beeray1 wrote:

When I first tried P1-r, the first thing that jumped out to me was how well I could attack with it. It's great at attacking. 

Thanks! Just what I want to hear. Smile
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Originally posted by KMM KMM wrote:

Originally posted by gnopgnipster gnopgnipster wrote:

I don't think Joo Saehyuk has used P1r for a couple of years now... If he has come back to these pips then someone can correct me. I use Globe 979 OX which allow me to attack as well as defend away from the table. 979's pips are very soft and allow for offensive strokes.
As far as I know, all of the places I've checked and people I've spoken with, he currently uses TSP Curl P-1R
He quit using P1r a couple of years ago and was using Tibhar Grass D-tecs with special Max sponge. Now if he went back to P1r since then I don't know. But he was very successful with the Grass DT.My source was a former team mate who asked him for a racket. He took the rubber off, signed it, and now it is sitting in front of me. CHEERS!
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Oh wow! That is pretty lucky Tongue He's easily my favorite player

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Look at the vids of Xiaoxin Yang (Lille with Bernadette Szocs and Monaco national team)
Lots of french people say that she plays with the P1-r like a short pimples)
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Originally posted by Boss1703 Boss1703 wrote:

Look at the vids of Xiaoxin Yang (Lille with Bernadette Szocs and Monaco national team)
Lots of french people say that she plays with the P1-r like a short pimples)

Will do! Thanks for the input, this tells me I can play pretty offensively with the P-1R if I have to Smile
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Couple of things: I read that Joo switches back and forth between these two rubbers, based on an interview I read.

Two: I knew a 2100 level woman attacker who used P-1R OX on her forehand. Deadly.

Three: To attack, it's best to use a straight punching motion, catching the ball at its peak and keeping the blade face open. Sure, you can bend the pips and produce some spin if you have a sponge, but this is unreliable and you'll find nobody at the upper levels playing this way. Below 1600, sure. If you want to hit and counter, you'd better find a different rubber -- not LPs. 

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Thanks! I see you play a JSH with P-1R, how do you use them?
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Mostly chopping. I don't try to hit with them that often. I find them good for pushing underspin, which I can do fairly well and fast, but a good opponent (2000 level) will have no problem ripping it back. I'm going to switch to Feint 3 soon b/c I find it much more consistent and easy to chop with.
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Originally posted by JohnnyChop JohnnyChop wrote:

feint long 2 is great for chopping and attacking too...

I agree, about the Feint Long II, I managed to get over 1900 attacking and chopping with it.  Something similar would be Giant Dragon Giant Long.  Oh and I used 1.0 mm  sponge on my sheets.Wink

I also have a friend who hits (and chops) with the P1R, he's about 1800 now.
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What is the advantage/disadvantage or challenge with using OX or sponge?
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In my opinion sponge makes it easier to chop and attack, but OX is easier for blocking, placing, and its more deceptive
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