TBS/Viscaria + Tenergy substitutes

Whatever alternatives people may settle with, just do not skimp on glue.  Get a quality one.  Those rubbers deserve something better than Tear Mender.

Edited by zeio - 08/07/2015 at 11:06pm

No.
You'll save money if you go to the forest and search for trees which give you natural glue for free.
Like instructed here
http://www.instructables.com/id/Homemade-Natural-Glue/

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Edited by minja - 08/08/2015 at 1:05am

Might be his/her time of the month.

Nothing wrong with it, we would all appreciate a heads up though.

minja is supposedly a 2600 player, so how dare we argue with him?

SmackDAT wrote: Bran wrote: The hype for Rossi Emotion is real, may be deserved, but overblown by far. What I wanted to say (which is a bit off-topic) is that the case presented by Haggisv sounds like young improving kids to me, since it's usually when uninformed parents need to step in and decide whether to cash in for better equipment. At that stage, moving to ALC isn't a must, there are other cheaper quality blades that have all the requirements for a fast improving kid, and won't be holding them back. I switched to the Emotion after my Viscaria got stolen (not by choice, an emergency backup for a league match) and it's definitely a very solid do-it-all blade. It's a complete, easy-to-play blade for a very reasonable price, which I think makes it a good candidate. But it's far from the only one. And of course, if you can afford one, an ALC is very good.

I recommend 729 V6 (TBS) or Yinhe Challenger (Vis) with Yinhe Moon on both sides.
There are some Tenergy substitutes but they are not worth to use.

Some coaches sell equipment to their students. Maybe its a money generating scheme.

Bran wrote: SmackDAT wrote: Bran wrote: Minja, you're an awesome troll. Beeray, I agree with you. You don't have to aim for ALC from Butterfly or effectively knock-offs from other brands (especially since they often are slightly inferior), there are other great compositions. The Rossi Emotion, 7-ply blades, etc. The hype for Rossi Emotion is real, may be deserved, but overblown by far. What I wanted to say (which is a bit off-topic) is that the case presented by Haggisv sounds like young improving kids to me, since it's usually when uninformed parents need to step in and decide whether to cash in for better equipment. At that stage, moving to ALC isn't a must, there are other cheaper quality blades that have all the requirements for a fast improving kid, and won't be holding them back. I switched to the Emotion after my Viscaria got stolen (not by choice, an emergency backup for a league match) and it's definitely a very solid do-it-all blade. It's a complete, easy-to-play blade for a very reasonable price, which I think makes it a good candidate. But it's far from the only one. And of course, if you can afford one, an ALC is very good. Minja, apologies for the name-calling, but you are flaming more than is needed.

I'm not flaming, just trying to think with logic, but it seems you need to get to 2600 before you are able to do that.
I can't really think of a person who has enough money to play a hobby like tt regularly and doesn't have 60 or 70 extra to spend in a product he knows will last 10, 20, 30 years.

From your post it seems like one of the reasons you bought JRE is because you thought about saving money.
The difference in price between jre and viscaria is 20 dollars.
If 20 dollars is of really importance to you then you are near starvation.
Specially living in UK, 20 dollars is like two meal at McDonalds.

That's why I said from the beginning this whole thread is a joke.
The thread starter wants to go to a guy living in Australia and taking his kid to play tt to buy jre because it will save him 20 dollars and be of the same quality.

In the end this thread is not about that.
It's about looking cool showing you know everything about the subject.
While making the other person look bankrupt



Edited by minja - 08/08/2015 at 1:02pm

minja wrote: Bran wrote: SmackDAT wrote: Bran wrote: Minja, you're an awesome troll. Beeray, I agree with you. You don't have to aim for ALC from Butterfly or effectively knock-offs from other brands (especially since they often are slightly inferior), there are other great compositions. The Rossi Emotion, 7-ply blades, etc. The hype for Rossi Emotion is real, may be deserved, but overblown by far. What I wanted to say (which is a bit off-topic) is that the case presented by Haggisv sounds like young improving kids to me, since it's usually when uninformed parents need to step in and decide whether to cash in for better equipment. At that stage, moving to ALC isn't a must, there are other cheaper quality blades that have all the requirements for a fast improving kid, and won't be holding them back. I switched to the Emotion after my Viscaria got stolen (not by choice, an emergency backup for a league match) and it's definitely a very solid do-it-all blade. It's a complete, easy-to-play blade for a very reasonable price, which I think makes it a good candidate. But it's far from the only one. And of course, if you can afford one, an ALC is very good. Minja, apologies for the name-calling, but you are flaming more than is needed. I'm not flaming, just trying to think with logic, but it seems you need to get to 2600 before you are able to do that. I can't really think of a person who has enough money to play a hobby like tt regularly and doesn't have 60 or 70 extra to spend in a product he knows will last 10, 20, 30 years.

Minja, for most pros a blade wouldn't last 10-20-30 years, since some change as soon as 6 months. For us common folks although investing in a good blade might seem like a good idea, can still be deterring because most players like to change setups very often just to try new things and saving 40-50 dollars here and there might seem okay.

Another thing is young players who are advancing fairly quickly while getting coaching usually change and upgrade the blade quickly as well.

If people have money to blow, let them. Their finances is their business.

Edited by DreiZ - 08/08/2015 at 1:04pm

DreiZ wrote: minja wrote: Bran wrote: SmackDAT wrote: Bran wrote: Minja, you're an awesome troll. Beeray, I agree with you. You don't have to aim for ALC from Butterfly or effectively knock-offs from other brands (especially since they often are slightly inferior), there are other great compositions. The Rossi Emotion, 7-ply blades, etc. The hype for Rossi Emotion is real, may be deserved, but overblown by far. What I wanted to say (which is a bit off-topic) is that the case presented by Haggisv sounds like young improving kids to me, since it's usually when uninformed parents need to step in and decide whether to cash in for better equipment. At that stage, moving to ALC isn't a must, there are other cheaper quality blades that have all the requirements for a fast improving kid, and won't be holding them back. I switched to the Emotion after my Viscaria got stolen (not by choice, an emergency backup for a league match) and it's definitely a very solid do-it-all blade. It's a complete, easy-to-play blade for a very reasonable price, which I think makes it a good candidate. But it's far from the only one. And of course, if you can afford one, an ALC is very good. Minja, apologies for the name-calling, but you are flaming more than is needed. I'm not flaming, just trying to think with logic, but it seems you need to get to 2600 before you are able to do that. I can't really think of a person who has enough money to play a hobby like tt regularly and doesn't have 60 or 70 extra to spend in a product he knows will last 10, 20, 30 years. Minja, for most pros a blade wouldn't last 10-20-30 years, since some change as soon as 6 months. For us common folks although investing in a good blade might seem like a good idea, can still be deterring because most players like to change setups very often just to try new things and saving 40-50 dollars here and there might seem okay. Another thing is young players who are advancing fairly quickly while getting coaching usually change and upgrade the blade quickly as well. If people have money to blow, let them. Their finances is their business.

If you like changing setups often then you have 50, 500 and more to spare.

A young kid with a viscaria will never need to change blade.
That's why coaches suggest them to get a viscaria in the first place.

I've known quite a few people who keep the same blade for ages and are not poor but the cost of a blade is something to them.
And this whole thread is just sad, most people here probably buy a new blade every couple of months, and then go think about saving 40 on a blade (which means they see themselves as beggars).


Edited by minja - 08/08/2015 at 1:14pm

There were so many changes in last 10 years only. May you imagine anyone still playing with 10+ years old TBSpark, for example? Besides, if you're active or competitive player, it is very likely the blade won't last for too long. The blade may last 10, 20, 30 years only with collector.

The other factor for the students and parents is to "keep up with the Jones". Kids/parents WILL compare what they have versus what other kids have.

Please stop ... guessing.

We have member here at MyTT who has Timo's personal blade in his collection. Enough?

Also note that Viscaria in the UK costs 104GBP and JRE may be found within EU for as low as 54EUR shipped (incl. VAT).

You're right regarding Viscaria, though: with its slim handle it may be suitable for kids.


Edited by Ray - 08/08/2015 at 1:44pm

minja wrote: jt99sf wrote: The other factor for the students and parents is to "keep up with the Jones". Kids/parents WILL compare what they have versus what other kids have. You are really giving your kid a nice kick start. My kid uses JRE because I wanted to save 20 and then spend them at the bar. He may not be olympic champion, but I saved my 20 bucks!

minja wrote: dude the difference in price between joola rossi emotion and viscaria is 20 dollars. since you are from uk that's 12 pounds. that's one meal at mcdonalds. a parent, a person who doesn't have money for 1 meal at mcdonalds won't have a car, won't have a mortgage, won't go on holidays.

Wrong. Maybe the problem is that you don't know how much things cost. Viscaria here in the UK is £104, plus postage. You can't shop around - butterfly stop you. The JRE on the other hand is £39 free shipping from Tim's. So...what's your next straw man?