Alex Table Tennis - MyTableTennis.NET Homepage
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - The Best LP for Chopblocking Close to the Table?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login
tabletennis11.com

The Best LP for Chopblocking Close to the Table?

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
felixchrissandy View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 03/29/2016
Location: Padang
Status: Offline
Points: 29
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote felixchrissandy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: The Best LP for Chopblocking Close to the Table?
    Posted: 04/15/2016 at 4:44am
I want know that pips rubbers are good for chopblocking , push , and normal block close to the table on BH. I not want to chop near table again because my chop too high ( easy for my opponent to hit my chop )

Now I use Tibhar COS 3 and Grass D.tecs OX. D.tecs too fast for me. Maybe I need more practice or buy another LP ?

I read Curl P-H , Hellfire , Curl P3a good for chopblocking

My game is of attack on FH and defense on BH (chopblocking).


Sorry for bad English Cry


Edited by felixchrissandy - 04/15/2016 at 4:45am
Tibhar COS 3 , Donic Acuda S2 , Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.2mm
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
gnopgnipster View Drop Down
Silver Member
Silver Member
Avatar

Joined: 07/22/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 877
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gnopgnipster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/15/2016 at 9:39am
From personal experience... Globe 979 OX 
Hardbat: Valor Champion/FH/BH-Valor Premier-OX

Regular:Valor Big Stick FH-Apollo II & BH-Globe 979 OX

Back to Top
kevo View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 01/16/2012
Location: ireland
Status: Offline
Points: 469
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kevo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/15/2016 at 11:09am
I don't think you need a new rubber but for the style you mention, 1.2mm sponge is way too thick for close to the table.  That is why it seems too fast.  Simply remove the sponge from your DTecs and play with it OX.  You will be amazed at the difference.  To remove the sponge, simply place a sheet of paper over the sponge (with the pimples facedown) and apply a hot iron to the paper.  The glue holding the sponge to the topsheet will melt and then you can gently pull it off.  Be careful the topsheet does not get stuck together or bunched up.  Keep a sheet of hard plastic or a rubber protector sheet nearby so you can stick the topsheet to it to keep it flat.  Good luck!
Back to Top
Pushblocker View Drop Down
Gold Member
Gold Member
Avatar

Joined: 12/09/2009
Location: Florida
Status: Offline
Points: 1976
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pushblocker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/15/2016 at 11:58am
Giant Dragon Dragon Talon National Team!! That's what I'm using and I love it! Especially on a balsa blade, that rubber is perfect for blocking close to the table.
2010 Florida State Champion

Dr. Neubauer Firewall Plus Blade with DHS G666 1.5mm on forehand Giant Dragon Talon National Team OX on backhand
Back to Top
Egghead View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 09/05/2009
Location: N.A.
Status: Offline
Points: 4230
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Egghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/15/2016 at 12:50pm
Originally posted by kevo kevo wrote:

I don't think you need a new rubber but for the style you mention, 1.2mm sponge is way too thick for close to the table.  That is why it seems too fast.  Simply remove the sponge from your DTecs and play with it OX.  You will be amazed at the difference.  To remove the sponge, simply place a sheet of paper over the sponge (with the pimples facedown) and apply a hot iron to the paper.  The glue holding the sponge to the topsheet will melt and then you can gently pull it off.  Be careful the topsheet does not get stuck together or bunched up.  Keep a sheet of hard plastic or a rubber protector sheet nearby so you can stick the topsheet to it to keep it flat.  Good luck!
OP said he used OX version. Anyway, try Dragon Talon or Joola Badman Reloaded, both are the slower version of DTecs 


Edited by Egghead - 04/15/2016 at 1:06pm
Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX
Back to Top
andras View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: 07/26/2012
Location: italy
Status: Offline
Points: 225
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote andras Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/15/2016 at 1:30pm
The long pimple rubbers have the minimum of friction , if you have not improved 
( complying with the Regulation )
their reverse spin is limited , the best alternative to the old vitrified are today
antitop frictionless that with the right treatment can improve them by increasing
 the very inversion of the spin and replacing the sponge with the right polymer slow them down . The Italian the best antitop after being modified is considered the ABS DR.Neubauer and
Bufalo dr. neubauer while the original materialspezialist TRANSFORMER ANTI
Back to Top
andras View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: 07/26/2012
Location: italy
Status: Offline
Points: 225
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote andras Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/15/2016 at 1:34pm
this is the best Italian player that use "antitop frictionless "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMlqYqQljEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-GEcipwuwM
the second match is better Wink


Edited by andras - 04/15/2016 at 1:41pm
Back to Top
LUCKYLOOP View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar

Joined: 03/27/2013
Location: Pongville USA
Status: Offline
Points: 2800
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LUCKYLOOP Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/15/2016 at 3:28pm
Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Giant Dragon Dragon Talon National Team!! That's what I'm using and I love it! Especially on a balsa blade, that rubber is perfect for blocking close to the table.


A slower version of Long Pips by Giant Dragon is Cropcircles which is good for chop blocking, seems to have better control than my friends DtecS, both in OX.

It depends on which style you want to play. Watch some of the latest PushBlocker videos at YouTube.

....

Edited by LUCKYLOOP - 04/15/2016 at 3:35pm
Hntr Fl / 4H & BH Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0
Yinhe T-2 / 4H Xiom Sig Pro 2 2.0 BH Xiom Omega IV Elite Max
Gam DC / 4H DHS Hurricane 8 39deg 2.1 BH GD CC LP OX
HARDBAT / Hock 3 ply / Frenshp Dr Evil OX
Back to Top
mts388 View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member


Joined: 03/21/2014
Location: Sonora CA
Status: Offline
Points: 2382
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mts388 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/15/2016 at 3:52pm
Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Giant Dragon Dragon Talon National Team!! That's what I'm using and I love it! Especially on a balsa blade, that rubber is perfect for blocking close to the table.


Is the Talon a hard pip?  I use Scylla Sword OX.  It's good for chop blocking and hitting.
Back to Top
Egghead View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 09/05/2009
Location: N.A.
Status: Offline
Points: 4230
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Egghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/15/2016 at 4:08pm
Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Giant Dragon Dragon Talon National Team!! That's what I'm using and I love it! Especially on a balsa blade, that rubber is perfect for blocking close to the table.


Is the Talon a hard pip?  I use Scylla Sword OX.  It's good for chop blocking and hitting.
Is Scylla as soft as Neptune? Talon is softer than Neptune (like 37.5 to 48.0).


Edited by Egghead - 04/15/2016 at 4:09pm
Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX
Back to Top
mts388 View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member


Joined: 03/21/2014
Location: Sonora CA
Status: Offline
Points: 2382
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mts388 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/15/2016 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by Egghead Egghead wrote:

Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Giant Dragon Dragon Talon National Team!! That's what I'm using and I love it! Especially on a balsa blade, that rubber is perfect for blocking close to the table.


Is the Talon a hard pip?  I use Scylla Sword OX.  It's good for chop blocking and hitting.
Is Scylla as soft as Neptune? Talon is softer than Neptune (like 37.5 to 48.0).


I haven't used many other LP's, but I'm told that the Sword is a hard pip.
Back to Top
felixchrissandy View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 03/29/2016
Location: Padang
Status: Offline
Points: 29
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote felixchrissandy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/15/2016 at 6:57pm
Originally posted by gnopgnipster gnopgnipster wrote:

From personal experience... Globe 979 OX 

Thank you for your opinion
Tibhar COS 3 , Donic Acuda S2 , Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.2mm
Back to Top
felixchrissandy View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 03/29/2016
Location: Padang
Status: Offline
Points: 29
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote felixchrissandy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/15/2016 at 7:00pm
Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Giant Dragon Dragon Talon National Team!! That's what I'm using and I love it! Especially on a balsa blade, that rubber is perfect for blocking close to the table.

Unfortunatly in my country no one sell GD . My seller recomend me to play with Dr Neubauer Monster Classic or Curl P-H. Is it good ?
Tibhar COS 3 , Donic Acuda S2 , Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.2mm
Back to Top
Egghead View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 09/05/2009
Location: N.A.
Status: Offline
Points: 4230
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Egghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/15/2016 at 7:13pm
Originally posted by felixchrissandy felixchrissandy wrote:

Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Giant Dragon Dragon Talon National Team!! That's what I'm using and I love it! Especially on a balsa blade, that rubber is perfect for blocking close to the table.

Unfortunatly in my country no one sell GD . My seller recomend me to play with Dr Neubauer Monster Classic or Curl P-H. Is it good ?
You need to buy GD online (cole, tt-store ....). I believe most of us do the same as well.
Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX
Back to Top
felixchrissandy View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 03/29/2016
Location: Padang
Status: Offline
Points: 29
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote felixchrissandy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/15/2016 at 7:50pm
Originally posted by Egghead Egghead wrote:

Originally posted by felixchrissandy felixchrissandy wrote:

Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Giant Dragon Dragon Talon National Team!! That's what I'm using and I love it! Especially on a balsa blade, that rubber is perfect for blocking close to the table.

Unfortunatly in my country no one sell GD . My seller recomend me to play with Dr Neubauer Monster Classic or Curl P-H. Is it good ?

[DIV]You need to buy GD online (cole, tt-store ....). I believe most of us do the same as well.[/DIV]

Okay thank you . What about i use Neubauer Monster Classic or Curl P-H ?
Tibhar COS 3 , Donic Acuda S2 , Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.2mm
Back to Top
kevo View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 01/16/2012
Location: ireland
Status: Offline
Points: 469
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kevo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/16/2016 at 8:03am
Originally posted by Egghead Egghead wrote:

Originally posted by kevo kevo wrote:

I don't think you need a new rubber but for the style you mention, 1.2mm sponge is way too thick for close to the table.  That is why it seems too fast.  Simply remove the sponge from your DTecs and play with it OX.  You will be amazed at the difference.  To remove the sponge, simply place a sheet of paper over the sponge (with the pimples facedown) and apply a hot iron to the paper.  The glue holding the sponge to the topsheet will melt and then you can gently pull it off.  Be careful the topsheet does not get stuck together or bunched up.  Keep a sheet of hard plastic or a rubber protector sheet nearby so you can stick the topsheet to it to keep it flat.  Good luck!
OP said he used OX version. Anyway, try Dragon Talon or Joola Badman Reloaded, both are the slower version of DTecs 
woops!  i went by his signature.  still stand by what I say. COS 3 is not a fast blade. DTecs is not too fast a rubber for it either as it has great braking once you learn to play with it.
Back to Top
pgpg View Drop Down
Gold Member
Gold Member
Avatar

Joined: 11/18/2013
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1306
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pgpg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/16/2016 at 12:33pm
I recently started to explore blocking off the bounce (if done well it drives opponents mad) - Defplay with Dornenglanz OX seem to work pretty well, requires practice and touch. 
USATT: ~1810
Butterfly Defense Alpha ST - H3 Neo - Cloud&Fog OX
Back to Top
gtx634 View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 09/09/2009
Location: KSA
Status: Offline
Points: 354
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gtx634 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/19/2016 at 11:36pm
One of my club, he uses Dawei 388D ox . This version has very long pip. He chopblock close to table and make really hard to return the ball.
Copied to clipboard!


Edited by gtx634 - 04/19/2016 at 11:44pm
My Feedback
BTY joo Se Hyuk
FH:Vega Europe
BH:Grass D.Tecs
-
Stiga Allround Bengston
FH:Phantom 008
BH:Tackiness D
Back to Top
skip3119 View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member


Joined: 02/24/2006
Location: somewhere
Status: Offline
Points: 8257
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote skip3119 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/20/2016 at 12:45am
Originally posted by gtx634 gtx634 wrote:

One of my club, he uses Dawei 388D ox . This version has very long pip. He chopblock close to table and make really hard to return the ball.
Copied to clipboard!
====================

I think one of your clubmates, he uses Dawei 388D-1 ox.
skip3119
Back to Top
Egghead View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 09/05/2009
Location: N.A.
Status: Offline
Points: 4230
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Egghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/20/2016 at 1:01am
Originally posted by gtx634 gtx634 wrote:

One of my club, he uses Dawei 388D ox . This version has very long pip. He chopblock close to table and make really hard to return the ball.
Copied to clipboard!
did he get it from taobao, 
Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX
Back to Top
gtx634 View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 09/09/2009
Location: KSA
Status: Offline
Points: 354
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gtx634 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/20/2016 at 4:22am
Originally posted by Egghead Egghead wrote:

Originally posted by gtx634 gtx634 wrote:

One of my club, he uses Dawei 388D ox . This version has very long pip. He chopblock close to table and make really hard to return the ball.
Copied to clipboard!
did he get it from taobao, 
Copied to clipboard!

I don't know :)
My Feedback
BTY joo Se Hyuk
FH:Vega Europe
BH:Grass D.Tecs
-
Stiga Allround Bengston
FH:Phantom 008
BH:Tackiness D
Back to Top
gtx634 View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 09/09/2009
Location: KSA
Status: Offline
Points: 354
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gtx634 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/20/2016 at 4:26am
Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by gtx634 gtx634 wrote:

One of my club, he uses Dawei 388D ox . This version has very long pip. He chopblock close to table and make really hard to return the ball.
Copied to clipboard!
====================

I think one of your clubmates, he uses Dawei 388D-1 ox.
Copied to clipboard!

He used to use 388d-1 , He told me 388D is much better then 388 D-1
My Feedback
BTY joo Se Hyuk
FH:Vega Europe
BH:Grass D.Tecs
-
Stiga Allround Bengston
FH:Phantom 008
BH:Tackiness D
Back to Top
firetack View Drop Down
Silver Member
Silver Member
Avatar

Joined: 10/18/2006
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 950
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote firetack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/21/2016 at 2:24pm
] Originally posted by gtx634 gtx634 wrote:

One of my club, he uses Dawei 388D ox . This version has very long pip. He chopblock close to table and make really hard to return the ball.


yes,currently using this on Defplay I found 388d ox better control with more passive reversal than 388d-1 ox,one of the best.
Black Balsa 3.0 fh/tenergy 05 1.9 388d ox

Back to Top
Pushblocker View Drop Down
Gold Member
Gold Member
Avatar

Joined: 12/09/2009
Location: Florida
Status: Offline
Points: 1976
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pushblocker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/21/2016 at 10:00pm
Originally posted by felixchrissandy felixchrissandy wrote:

Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Giant Dragon Dragon Talon National Team!! That's what I'm using and I love it! Especially on a balsa blade, that rubber is perfect for blocking close to the table.

Unfortunatly in my country no one sell GD . My seller recomend me to play with Dr Neubauer Monster Classic or Curl P-H. Is it good ?

Don't like either of those.. Is Tibhar Grass D.Tecs available where you are?
2010 Florida State Champion

Dr. Neubauer Firewall Plus Blade with DHS G666 1.5mm on forehand Giant Dragon Talon National Team OX on backhand
Back to Top
LUCKYLOOP View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar

Joined: 03/27/2013
Location: Pongville USA
Status: Offline
Points: 2800
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LUCKYLOOP Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/22/2016 at 2:13am
Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Originally posted by felixchrissandy felixchrissandy wrote:

Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Giant Dragon Dragon Talon National Team!! That's what I'm using and I love it! Especially on a balsa blade, that rubber is perfect for blocking close to the table.

Unfortunatly in my country no one sell GD . My seller recomend me to play with Dr Neubauer Monster Classic or Curl P-H. Is it good ?

Don't like either of those.. Is Tibhar Grass D.Tecs available where you are?


PB what about Globe Mo Wang II OX ? Have you tried it ?
Hntr Fl / 4H & BH Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0
Yinhe T-2 / 4H Xiom Sig Pro 2 2.0 BH Xiom Omega IV Elite Max
Gam DC / 4H DHS Hurricane 8 39deg 2.1 BH GD CC LP OX
HARDBAT / Hock 3 ply / Frenshp Dr Evil OX
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.01
Copyright ©2001-2018 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.295 seconds.

Become a Fan on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Web Wiz News
Forum Home | Go to the Forums | Forum Help | Disclaimer

MyTableTennis.NET is the trading name of Alex Table Tennis Ltd.

Copyright ©2003-2024 Alex Table Tennis Ltd. All rights reserved.