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    Posted: 06/27/2016 at 7:59pm
Any suggestions?
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What exactly means "best"?
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Good for hitting/attacking with short pimples and also good for looping with inverted. People keep on telling me TBS isnt the ideal blade for short pimple attacking.


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Originally posted by ericd937 ericd937 wrote:

People keep on telling me TBS isnt the ideal blade for short pimple attacking.

Don't worry too much about what other people tell you. Is it ideal for YOU or do YOU really like it?
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It pretty good, but I think i can find something better. Ive recently been playing with Sanwei Pro V5. Its pretty good, but i cant stand the sound. I ordered a Zetro Quad 3 weeks ago, but the straight handle is on backorder. I think im going to cancel and try something else. Maybe Strato.
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The Sanwei Pro V9 was also of some interest, but nobody has it.
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Originally posted by ericd937 ericd937 wrote:

Good for hitting/attacking with short pimples and also good for looping with inverted. People keep on telling me TBS isnt the ideal blade for short pimple attacking.




A loppers blade and a Sp hitters blade have different characteristics... You have to compromise somewhere... All the classics Sp blades will work p700 clipper, clear field but non of them are really off+

I suggest time boll t5000 if you can handle the speed but it is not exactly medium hard

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Originally posted by ericd937 ericd937 wrote:

Good for hitting/attacking with short pimples and also good for looping with inverted. People keep on telling me TBS isnt the ideal blade for short pimple attacking.

I agree with those people. None carbon/arylate-carbon blade is so good to attack with SP as 7-ply blades.
I´ve tried Kong Linghui SP, Primorac Carbon and Schlager with short pips and they are not good as Clipper, Persson Powerplay or even DHS Power G9.
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Sounds to me you'll love Mizutani Super ZLC. Plenty of hit power, but it has enough flex and softness for spinny loops
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What you need is the M.I.T Double Day Yaliant ZLC/ALC. Koto+ZLC on the FH side, Soft-Angiere + ALC on the other side.
Plays very good for attack with SP on the soft-side and loops very well if you use a Chinese rubber on the FH.


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Originally posted by ericd937 ericd937 wrote:

Good for hitting/attacking with short pimples and also good for looping with inverted. People keep on telling me TBS isnt the ideal blade for short pimple attacking.



I play a similar style (short/long pips on the forehand and invert on backhand). For me, I play more backhand oriented so I always make sure the blade fits my backhand game, since I win a lot of my points there. If you're the same way, you might try doing something similar.

I love the garaydia zlc and alc for that style. Nice thick, solid blades )7mm) with enough softness to do great loops with. I used to use the timo boll w7, ebenholz 7, and a number of other 7 ply woods. 


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Originally posted by ericd937 ericd937 wrote:

Any suggestions?


Try rosewood 7 a low arc blade will make the balls sink more
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Originally posted by ericd937 ericd937 wrote:

Good for hitting/attacking with short pimples and also good for looping with inverted. People keep on telling me TBS isnt the ideal blade for short pimple attacking.



The regular Mizutani will fit your requests. Very good with SP, also very good with inverted rubbers, very stiff and medium touch due to limba outer......
Mizutani sZLC / T05fx / T05fx
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Schlager Carbon!
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Originally posted by taczkid taczkid wrote:

Schlager Carbon!

I don't play with short pips, but the dual SP player (BTY Flarestorm?) I play regularly uses the Schlager Carbon. 

Of the myriad blades he owns (ranging from old Juic Nebulae, to classic Stiga Super Carbons, to assorted stiff/fast blades like the clipper) the combo ignores my incoming spin (from service, from spin-loops, from chops or heavy pushes) more than any other blade.

Although Flarestorm is spinny for an SP (when engaging the sponge?) the Schlager suits his two winged push and pick hit game best.

It's frustrating for me, because if he uses any other blade in his collection, I can win. Against the Schlager, much of my advantage on serve and in soft over the table play is nullified.
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Schlager Carbon might be a bit much. These aren't exactly the blade I was asking for, but does anyone have experience with Photino Light or Innerforce ZLC? Would these be suitable for short pips hitting? A sub $200 blade is something I would feel comfortable with. Anything more expensive than that and I would cringe every time I hit the table or went for a loop close to the edge. I've yet to try a ZL blade. Also, if anyone has a deal on a used one, I'm interested. Please pm me.


Edited by ericd937 - 06/29/2016 at 3:49pm
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IF T5000 is the hardest next to Tricabon which is discontinued
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