The best poly balls

wturber wrote: The durability knock on seamless balls is that edge hits with rackets tend to shatter them.  This becomes a pretty significant problem for players who are stong loopers who hit the ball with the edge of their blade frequently.

DreiZ wrote: Best poly balls IMO are still the NP40+. The most durable; best bounce, feel, speed & spin. They do not explode when you hit an edge of your blade or the table unlike most XSF did with my experience.  They wear better than celluloid balls too i think. They dent/scratch but do not crack. I tend to use the overly used ones for practice and newer ones for matches. 2nd would be XSF.

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I played with nittaku premium 40+ 3 star balls today and they're amazing. Plays like celluloid, little heavier though before these I played with Donic 3 star poly and they sucked

DreiZ wrote: Best poly balls IMO are still the NP40+. The most durable; best bounce, feel, speed & spin. They do not explode when you hit an edge of your blade or the table unlike most XSF did with my experience.  They wear better than celluloid balls too i think. They dent/scratch but do not crack. I tend to use the overly used ones for practice and newer ones for matches. 2nd would be XSF.

Now that I've played some "money" matches with the Nexy seamless, I am surprised that it is significantly different than the XSF...it's softer at impact then feels firmer than the XSF as I apply pressure to accelerate my bat.  Overall the XSF is closer to NP40+.

pgpg wrote: roundrobin wrote: Cracked two more NP40+ 3-star balls last Saturday night RR...One from my friend (slightly used) the other mine, brand-new.  Played the rest of the matches with Nexy seamless. I managed to do the same on Saturday, that is break TWO NP40+ 3* balls in one session. Don't think we did anything outrageous either, but there they were, one of the balls with may be only 15 min of playtime.  Not too happy, probably will get a couple of packs of Yinhe seamless balls from cole, paying 10$ for 3-pack of Nittaku suddenly feels wrong.

I agree the G40+ ball I used had a lively feel maybe there will be more emphasis on this direction in future plastic ball manufacturing would be good for the sport.

wturber wrote: pgpg wrote: roundrobin wrote: Cracked two more NP40+ 3-star balls last Saturday night RR...One from my friend (slightly used) the other mine, brand-new.  Played the rest of the matches with Nexy seamless. I managed to do the same on Saturday, that is break TWO NP40+ 3* balls in one session. Don't think we did anything outrageous either, but there they were, one of the balls with may be only 15 min of playtime.  Not too happy, probably will get a couple of packs of Yinhe seamless balls from cole, paying 10$ for 3-pack of Nittaku suddenly feels wrong.  I've been using the NS40+ <span style="line-height: 16.8px;">(Nittaku Superior 2* 40+)</span><span style="line-height: 16.8px;"> </span><span style="line-height: 1.4;">balls since spending $3 for a table tennis ball is borderline offensive to me.  ;^)</span> They have been holding up fine and I'm a fairly agressive attacker with hardbat.  I can't recall the last time I've broken one.  I also have a few older 3* NP40+ balls that have just gotten too worn and shiny while still not breaking.  Maybe I'll feed these to the robot.   I've received some of the Yinhe S40+ balls and will start playing with them and will compare how they play to the NS40+ balls.

The Yinhe S40+ balls are very nice. I have had 4-5 sessions with them and the feedback has been very good from other players. Nice consistent bounce. Nice update to the blue box Yinhe which I have been using for a while.

12 balls from Cole for $20 shipped. Excellent value compared to NP40+.

BTW, one of my hitting partners, who really crushes the ball broke 2 NP40s in about 45 min. He was hitting with a ball snob in the club who only likes to play NP40..... They switched balls after the second one broke.

I also tried the NP40 2* ball. Couldn't tell the diff between 2* and 3*, but the 2* balls broke very quickly.

My concern with continuing to carry the blue boxes is that if it's a matter of selecting balls from a pool, if they red box are smaller within the range then it's likely that they blue box will become bigger within the range than they previously had been.  That may already be happening.

I like new butterfly G40+ the best

My preference is G40+ now, durable, long lasting, never had any issues with those

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Edited by Egghead - 08/25/2016 at 7:20pm

cole_ely wrote: Egghead wrote: cole_ely wrote: My concern with continuing to carry the blue boxes is that if it's a matter of selecting balls from a pool, if they red box are smaller within the range then it's likely that they blue box will become bigger within the range than they previously had been.  That may already be happening. <span style="line-height: 16.8px;">May be, t</span>he blue box (regular) balls are only the red box's rejected balls (size, quality ...)  Lets say size, not roundness I don't think.

Been playing with the Yinhe Seamless Red Box Poly balls at the club for the past 10 days, it's the best Poly ball I've tried thus far (others: NP+, Butterfly G40, Gambler, DHS), and other players concur....Perfectly round, Very consistent bounce, Lively and Fast, Very good Spin, doesn't drift or float on chops/pushes, Durable and Solid feel, haven't broken one yet, Reasonable Cost ($7.50/6 from Cole). Can finally say I like a Poly Ball better than any Celluloid with this Ball.

Edited by AL_in_MN - 08/26/2016 at 10:12am

AL_in_MN wrote: cole_ely wrote: Egghead wrote: cole_ely wrote: My concern with continuing to carry the blue boxes is that if it's a matter of selecting balls from a pool, if they red box are smaller within the range then it's likely that they blue box will become bigger within the range than they previously had been.  That may already be happening. <span style="line-height: 16.8px;">May be, t</span>he blue box (regular) balls are only the red box's rejected balls (size, quality ...)  Lets say size, not roundness I don't think. Been playing with the Yinhe Seamless Red Box Poly balls at the club for the past 10 days, it's the best Poly ball I've tried thus far (others: NP+, Butterfly G40, Gambler, DHS), and other players concur....Perfectly round, Very consistent bounce, Lively and Fast, Very good Spin, doesn't drift or float on chops/pushes, Durable and Solid feel, haven't broken one yet, Reasonable Cost ($7.50/6 from Cole). Can finally say I like a Poly Ball better than any Celluloid with this Ball.

I have been ready to get some more 40+ balls because my original stash of XSF Yinhe and Nexy balls are almost gone. 

Not sure what to get or if I should still wait.  Hearing from the seamless manufacture months ago about how the quality of the seamless balls were reduced because of increased price brands would have to  pay for them now...turned me away from getting more balls for the summer.  Hope this changes.

I cant stand the Nittaku 40+ premium balls.  They seem only good for a very short time before they start to get very slippery and distort badly.  If you take one of these $3 balls after playing with it for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 matches....its probably dead (not round as new). 

To show how the Nittaku 40+ premium holds up after play.....go into a dark room with a lamp.  take the ball and have half the ball in darkness and half in the light source.  Just like the sun rotating around the moon....slowly turn it around and it will show you tons of imperfections (dents/depressions/distortions) that you cant see in normal light. Look at the area where the light and shadow meet....look for shadows of dents or imperfections.  I was surprised to see this on accident while grabbing a used ball of my desk at night. 

I will try to show a pic of this on a few balls later. 

Soooooooooooo    if I have to buy new poly balls......can I get something like the original (2nd gen) XSF balls?   That ball I like the most. 




Edited by Rich215 - 08/26/2016 at 11:29am

Quick questions, as I am getting a little confused about the different Yinhe 40+ balls here...are both the Red box and Blue box balls we talking about here 3 stars or lower grade?