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BH-Man
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My last set of Karis I got 500 hrs out of them before hooking up a developing player with them. I coulda gotten another 200-300 out of them. Normally, a lot of rubbers are ready for trash if it is 100-200 hrs. Karis lasting so long is great for the consumer, sucky for the seller, but I would rather have it that way than for the rubber to suck and be good for the seller.
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During that period I also lost some weight and trained in a little more disciplined way, so who knows really what it all means? I have no idea. There is more than one change going on at once. Then also, in recent few weeks I have had some nagging injury issues, nothing too serious but just enough to reduce my play time and keeps me from playing all out. I am still using Karis though and I like the feeling of control. Is that choice rational? I have no idea. |
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I am guessing that no rating points were either gained or lost during nine months. The rubber switch is mainly dictated by the search for comfort of play, desire to experiment, etc., is that right?
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PeopleAreStranger
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does anyone know any distributor or near store that ships to Spain or have a Karis M sheet to sell?
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Magic_M
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@ maurice101 + hangdog:
which products do you like to order? Maybe I can help you. For example I could order Karis for you (available here in Germany) and send it to (one of) you. International shipping is not really expansive here. If you are interested, please contact me with pm.
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richrf
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Amazing. I wonder about their commitment to the product outside of Korea? |
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maurice101
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Yes I find it frustrating that I can't find one site worldwide that has a functioning shopping cart that will ship to Australia.
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hangdog
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You're right, I'm getting the product page but it goes on the blink when I try to add to cart or log in.
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maurice101
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Tried nexyttstore.com and got No carriers available. Similar error message for nexy.com.
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hangdog
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I tried that one for ages, but it was out of stock forever. Turns out that particular Nexy site doesn't seem to be updated, at least for Karis M. I think this one might work, though. http://nexyttstore.com
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BH-Man
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Maurice, I am 1/2 of the Nexy USA operation. This is Nexy Korea's page for rubbers, maybe it is the same page you visited. If there isn't a Nexy distributor in OZ, then Nexy Korea is it. They will certainly have every Nexy product, but shipping will drive your cost per unit up considerably if you only order a few things. If the order has 6-10 items, the cost per unit of shipping is much more reasonable. EMS shipping they use is very fast. If you are uncomfortable about making an order from Nexy Korea, send a PM to Bogeyhunter or myself.
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maurice101
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Where do you guys buy Karis rubbers? Tried to use nexy.com and get an error message No payment modules have been installed. I purchased from England last time and he does not respond to emails and and last time it took 3 weeks to arrive.u
Any shops in Asia? Edited by maurice101 - 10/06/2017 at 11:08pm |
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BH-Man
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You oughta dig up some of the old "Prime that Rubber" threads from OOAK from LAW and some others... good reading.
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Baal
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To be honest, I like it best when it is just a little bit broken in.
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BH-Man
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Sounds like U got nearly 500 hrs from Karis. Nice. That is the ball park area where I was willing to part with it to another developing player, it still had some life in it.
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Baal
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I am using M with a Viscaria. |
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richrf
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Not sure if you read the whole thread, but from what I gather Karis plays well in any blade, it simply adopts the blade's characteristics. The main issue seems to be lack of dominating characteristics. It plays like a upscale all-around. I'm tempted, but I think I am not up to it physically. But maybe with good placement, I would be? But for sure I need to be able to open up again heavy US. I'm told I can with Mantra. Probably need a flexible blade to do the same with Karis. |
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will karis m+ play well with alc blades??
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richrf
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It took me 20 minutes of interesting reading but I finally found this review. Maybe copy it to the Mantra thread where I am sure others will find it very informative. I totally get what you like about predictability and linearity. I love it when I am controlling the game and not the sponge. Still, unless I'm in full training mode, it can be quite exhausting to win a point. I might not last an 11 point game if I had to provide all of the energy. This is what happened when I was playing with unboosted DHS, exhaustion. In regards to Mantra, are both similar in speed and spin? I can get Mantra for a reasonable price at Tabletennis11. Thanks. I'd love to see a review comparing these Japanese rubbers to Rozena. All appear to be quite similar though using different technologies. Rozena seems to be doing great in Japan, which is why I am interested. Thanks again! Edited by richrf - 10/06/2017 at 1:29pm |
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yogi_bear
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M+ is like 46-47 degrees. It is my bh rubber now. Arc is medium to high and.it has this nice feel and easy handling
It is surprusingly bouncy at first. It is easy to lift backspin and block too. |
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Update on Karis M.
I finally decided to replace my worn Karis M sheets. It did seem like they were not quite playing the same as before. I got about 9 months of play out of the last pair. Incredible durability. So tomorrow I have will play with nice new Karis M on both sides of my Viscaria. |
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When you get some in send me a sheet. |
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Any contest for lucky testers in the future?? I'm quite pleased with the M+ (see review on previous page) but i was expecting something harder and faster. So the H version sounds very nice. |
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Baal
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I was guessing that. I generally prefer hsrder rubbers but for me M+ was not a success. It just didn't feel right and to be honest, was not really faster than M. I may try a sheet of H. When I first started playing with Karis M I liked it immediately but for awhile was thinking I would prefer something with the same predictability but somewhat faster. But after a few months I just don't care anymore. My technique has apparently adapted some and when I want to unload on a shot, I get just as much overall power and penetration as my shots had with T05 or MX-P. I do recommend a reasonably fast blade with Karis, though. My Viscaria is certainly enough.
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BH-Man
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I took a quick look at the vid and the interview and hit session with their sponsored payer shows he really likes Karis H on FH as the ball "really moves out well" he stressed the direct feel and safety/control over and over.
My take from the vid is that Karis H is a harder/faster version of Karis retaining the principle properties of keeping it on the table with linear performance. (Getting only what you put into it) I am also eager to see what Nexy Korea says about it.
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Baal, I asked the international manager through a popular Korean text app to explain, let's see how it shapes up. H sounds like hard. M is between FX and EL and M+ is kinda between EL and MX in Tibhar speak by my feeling at impact. H could be a true MX level hard for heavy hitters, who knows? I am with you in wishing Nexy could at least make a paragraph description, even if it is a teaser. My prototype M+ on lissom feel pretty darned top end fast, easily faster than my M on Kim Jung Hoon Blade, which is a level or two faster blade.
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Would you be willing to tell us how it is different from Karis M? |
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To be frank I have been using the same equipment for 2 years now and do not have any issues even with T64. Karis M has a shorter trajectory and is slower...this makes.it easier.to hit angles. ...but so does.any short trajectory slow rubber like T05FX and Barracuda Bigslam. |
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