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    Posted: 05/15/2017 at 5:02am
As a recovering EJ;

Its a 12 step programme
The first step is admitting you are an EJ.....

I have been an EJ on and off for a few years. If you are going to test different equipment, make sure you do at the same venue using the same balls and table.
Otherwise different venues and balls or tables could be having a big effect on how you feel it is going.

Its the only scientific way to get a proper reading of what is going on.

I have just ordered my 15th new blade of the last 2 years.
Hopefully it will be the last.

Stiga Allround Evolution!

But what if its too slow????????????

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Then try a Stiga Allround Classic Carbon, just a tiny bit faster.
The possibilities are nearly endless...
Seriously, if you want to quit EJing and your setup is too slow, just hit harder!
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tried a stiga allround classic carbon, thought it was horrible no feeling, might as well of used a frying pan
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go for Virtuoso -

Should be enough.
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1st Rule of EJing:

Current setup not working - Ignore all opinions and reviews and buy something new to help...

Yes, it's an epidemic...
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If its too slow get a Vituoso, Acoustic or maybe Korbel? If that is too slow Virtuoso + or maybe a 7 ply if the V+ doesn't work out ? Maybe a light weight Clipper? Maybe an innerforce blade? Composite will help stability and won't have so much feedback plus a larger sweet spot. I love my Apolonia ZLC.... hahahahahahahaha
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Originally posted by mog1111 mog1111 wrote:



Stiga Allround Evolution!

But what if its too slow????????????



That's what I thought at first. It's actually too fast for me with two T05s attached. It is probably the overall weight of the assembled racket. Alternatively, Viscaria and Freitas play a little slower with the same rubber. I bought the Evolution looking for better feeling in my push game, which I got. Looping with the Evo is unreal. So much power and spin.
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I think I will like, im coming down a notch hopefully from a Tibhar stratus power wood.   Stratus is a wonderful blade but a notch too stiff and fast.

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What was wrong with your Primorac Carbon?

You mentioned plating at the same venue, etc, etc....I would also add, to try and play against the same player/players, as much as possible. That way you remove that variable as well.

I was never an EJ, and I always felt like my playing had drastically deteriorated when playing with a new blade. And it took almost two months to get used to all the quirks of the new setup, sometimes more. So glad I have settled.

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I've been EJing for years

I make my own paddles so my excuse is I have to try them.
And try to get rubbers to match.

Most times i go thru a 2 oz bottle of tear mender every other week.

I have blades that do what no other blade does.
Most times its fun sometimes it's not.

I usually carry 4 or 5 blades to the club every time.

Changing so often obviously hinders consistent play but what are the alternatives.

 


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I see no hint of recovery.
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I EJ without remorse. Cheaper than buying cars.
I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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I would love to EJ more but there just isn't enough playing time to get truly familiar with different blade and rubber combinations. 
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Second rule is: when you reach to a decent level, you need consistency, then you will keep only one setup.
EJ end!
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

I see no hint of recovery.


no i'm going to use this blade for 2 months at least before I make a decision
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think its too late for me to reach a decent level.

having said that I am now 46, and I could not loop until I got to the age of about 44 and had to practice with my children and listened to there coaches
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Originally posted by mog1111 mog1111 wrote:

think its too late for me to reach a decent level.

having said that I am now 46, and I could not loop until I got to the age of about 44 and had to practice with my children and listened to there coaches


No wonder you change equipment so much. And no wonder you are so stubborn when people tell you to stop. And you kinda lied when you said you used the same equipment for many years without pointing out you didn't know how to loop when you did.

I had the same experience when I started playing years ago. Today, I EJ because it is cheaper than buying cars, not because I am under any illusion it will make me play better.
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why did I kind of lie? do you mean because I did not say I could not loop until 3 years ago.

I did use Sammy alpha and Mendo and Rapid for a long time.

But it is true I was very upright and used to drive almost everything off the bounce, I think you mean this bit where I kind of lied.

I am going to stop Ejing though, although it is probable at some point I will go to lp on one side of the blade
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to be honest I do sort of like ejing sometimes too, it is fun too try different equipment sometimes
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Originally posted by mog1111 mog1111 wrote:

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why did I kind of lie? do you mean because I did not say I could not loop until 3 years ago.

I did use Sammy alpha and Mendo and Rapid for a long time.

But it is true I was very upright and used to drive almost everything off the bounce, I think you mean this bit where I kind of lied.

I am going to stop Ejing though, although it is probable at some point I will go to lp on one side of the blade

Yes - you haven't played long enough with anything to know your stroke yet so everything feels different and special.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

I EJ without remorse. Cheaper than buying cars.

I've got so many blades and crap now, I consider myself more of a collector than an Ej'er! 

I knew a guy who had gone through about 800 different ones he claimed... I saw about 90 that he had left. 
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I played with JRE and 05fx both sides for about 6 months, this coincided with me getting better at/learning to loop

that was 2 years ago been messing about since then
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Originally posted by mog1111 mog1111 wrote:

tried a stiga allround classic carbon, thought it was horrible no feeling, might as well of used a frying pan

I was kidding, I just selected the next higher blade in the Stiga speed ranking Big smile
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I used to own quite a few blades, and just recently I went ahead and sold ... every.. single ... one.. of.. them, except my main one. Boy was it tough :) I do have a backup blade, new in the box, sitting and waiting just in case, but I don't think I'll need it anytime soon.
My new setup is definitely "40+" ready and instead of wasting money on the blades I now spend money on the lessons :)    


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Going Tonight with 5 blades to try

I find i can get used to almost any combination within a game
Because I've tried so many.

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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

Originally posted by mog1111 mog1111 wrote:

tried a stiga allround classic carbon, thought it was horrible no feeling, might as well of used a frying pan

I was kidding, I just selected the next higher blade in the Stiga speed ranking Big smile


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Originally posted by mog1111 mog1111 wrote:

think its too late for me to reach a decent level.

having said that I am now 46, and I could not loop until I got to the age of about 44 and had to practice with my children and listened to there coaches


I used to loose against a 70x and he could not loop or move when I was 20x and my level was about 2300-2400.

I am over 35 now but I don't have to loop or move to beat some youngsters

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My first rule of being an ej- "it is better to be an ej than do drugs."
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Originally posted by mog1111 mog1111 wrote:

I am going to stop Ejing though, although it is probable at some point I will go to lp on one side of the blade
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That will open a new door for EJing, because there are so many different LP rubbers available - some are OX while others with sponge.  Sooner or later, you will be able to find a LP rubber that you like.
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-buy first, regret later.

-money !!

-use your heart not your brain.
I'm no longer an EJ and I'm proud .
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