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Backhand dominant player - reverse > pendulum serv |
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SmackDAT
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That is the reason why I made this thread!! It seems counter intuitive but Bran and Emratthich clearly and logically explain why this is a thing. Ovtcharov, FZD, ZJK all have killer reverse/bh serves. Ma Long/Yan An/Ding Ning have their trademark pendulum and REVERSE tomahawk serves (which has the same spin as pendulum, ever wonder why DN doesn't use normal tomahawk)? |
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SmackDAT
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Boll switches grips heavily between forehand and backhand, so while his forehand is arguably better than his backhand, he has a strong backhand as well due to the change in grips. Of course, Ma Long has a reverse and ZJK has a pendulum, and while it isn't "ideal" for their game, it is needed to create serve diversity which is just as important at an elite level
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Liquid Sky
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So you did start this thread NOT to discuss about this topic? You only wanted to have your/ EmRatThich's opinion confirmed?
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SmackDAT
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Yes, I was unsure as to whether this was a thing, Emratthich himself validated it on the thread!
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Bran
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Of course, it's schematic and not meant to be absolute. In fairness, I haven't watched the video and only explained the reasoning behind the statement, as it's something I've experienced myself. I'm also FH-oriented, and I also serve reverse pendulum from time to time. Most players I encounter don't dare go wide FH so I tend to still stay on the BH side to prepare for a return to the middle, which is where the ball will go if they don't firmly commit on the return and only vaguely aim for the BH. Unfortunately, this means I get caught out from time to time against better receivers who use the serve's side spin to simply guide the ball to the other corner. I think that's another related example of the relation between the serve and where we stand after the serve, how we want to play the third ball. Edited by Bran - 06/26/2017 at 4:12pm |
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Edited by zeio - 06/26/2017 at 4:57pm |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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Liquid Sky
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You probably would like to explain what you are referring to with this gif?!
I cannot imagine any context in a tabletennis forum in which this would be appropriate. Edited by Liquid Sky - 06/26/2017 at 5:16pm |
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NextLevel
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He is mocking SmackDat's approach to the thread. More seriously, I agree with you. While I agree with Emrathich and Bran's logic, I find that what is more important in my practice is the kinds of returns that you get. There is no need to argue too strongly with SmackDat, he will develop his own opinions over time. The most backhand oriented player in my club can't do a backhand serve or a reverse pendulum serve even if you paid him to.
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After years of reading the western view on human rights conditions in China, and years of posting on this forum as to how severely crippled human rights really are because people are so easily offended, I seriously feel the quote below is nothing more than a mere decoration.
You can't comment on race, color, sex, age...without fearing that someone WILL get offended. Last but not least, if this will make you feel better: |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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Edited by berndt_mann - 06/26/2017 at 11:03pm |
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