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Palio The WAY sticky rubber review |
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Tajny1989
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Posted: 08/12/2017 at 6:22pm |
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JacekGM
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It looks like an interesting rubber.
I'd like to write an abbreviated transcript of Tajny's video, just give me some time (it's a busy Sunday).
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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JacekGM
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OK, here you go... Part 1.
0:00 – 3:40 Palio ‘The Way’ is a typical sticky Chinese
rubber sheet, a soft pimples-in rubber on a hard sponge. This rubber was tested
by Dariusz on two blades, one was OFF carbon blade( Return Tajny Spirit, Poland),
the other was Chinese OFF- blade PG2.
Some difference in behavior was noted: on
the OFF blade the rubber was playing faster, on the PG2 it was a more versatile
rubber allowing for a lot of rotation. For the price, the rubber sheet is well
made, without noticeable defects that would lower quality. Even though the
rubber was played with for a relatively short time, no drop in performance was
observed. The first impression is that the rubber sheet promises to be
very durable. It is a typical sticky Chinese rubber, and therefore it requires
the typical arc movement, and also associated with it footwork. Ball stays on
the rubber for a long time and that allows for a high control play. 3:41 – 5:15 Rotation exerted by this rubber sheet is very
high and it can be very diverse. The
player does not have the feeling of imparting a lot of spin, however the
opponent can feel the rotation very strongly, in many ways, during different
strokes. It is easy to deceive with spin using this rubber sheet. The speed of Palio ‘The Way’ is not too high, even on the
carbon OFF blade it was noticeably slower than the ESN rubber Dariusz had on
his BH during the demo. Control when using this this rubber is very high, the
sticky surface allows for lots of control during serves, and virtually during
all aggressive shots. However when we are pushed back to defensive play, the
control allowed by this rubber sheet is a little less. 5:16 – 6:23 The sponge is certainly hard, it is a typical
hard-sponged Chinese rubber sheet. However, the soft rubber surface generates
the overall impression of a medium-hard rubber. As for weight, it is
substantial and comparable to the weight of T05. The rubber sheet performs the best
when used for strong, active topspin shots or for chopping, even from a
distance, in situations where you have the initiative and you decide about the
rotation, not the opponent. In passive game, this rubber sheet is relatively
harmless, because the balls he/she gets are easy to finish off. 6:24 – 7:33 This rubber sheet is best suited for people who
want to play with a lot of spin and fast, yet it also allows for defensive play
and thus this is a rubber sheet for all-round and ‘combinational’ play. I cannot recommend this rubber for players who have
developed topspin play using European rubber sheets, it would be rather hard to
switch. 7:34 – 9:26 The catapult of this rubber sheet is surely
lesser than ESN rubbers, however it is still higher than the older typical
Chinese rubbers had, especially when playing with plastic balls. There is some resemblance
of the surface of Palio ‘The Way’ to the new Bluestorm rubbers, or even it is sort
of similar to the Z1. What is unusual is that this rubber sheet is really fine
for BH play, while with the earlier rubbers, like DHS Hurricane, BH play was too
slow and with less rotational capabilities, and a much longer movement was
necessary. However ‘The Way’ can be used on BH where still a little more force
needs to be used (compared to ESN rubbers) but the resulting ball is surprising,
and can hurt... |
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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JacekGM
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Part 2 (sorry, I could not avoid the term 'dwell')
9:27 – 10:59 As it was mentioned, in the passive game this
rubber sheet is rather mediocre and results in balls that are easy for the
opponent. However, in active game you get many more capabilities, it is quite
easy to break the rotation imparted by the opponent and thus active play is
much more effective. Topspin countering works especially well due to the strong
forward jump the ball experiences after contacting table surface. The throw of
this rubber is rather high, even for a Chinese rubber, and after the contact
with table surface, the ball jumps in a way that is surprising to the opponent.
Such a topspin is much more difficult to block than when using ESN rubbers like
Rasant or the Bluestorms. We feel that it is a little more difficult to play
with this rubber but the opponent gets balls that are much more difficult to
block. 11:00 – 12:17 This rubber is absolutely not a substitute for
Tenergy, but in the new era of plastic balls these rubber sheets definitely
make a lot of sense. The ease of scoring points when using this rubber is it’s
great feature. While it can be necessary to repeat topspin attack 5-10 times
using a European rubber sheet, with Palio ‘The Way’ maximum 2-3 times is enough
to finish the party! The sound of Palio ‘The Way’ is very loud and high pitched,
undoubtedly helping in the game and some people really like it very much. 12:18 – 14:12 The ‘dwell’ of the ball on this rubber sheet resembles
the dwell that the old caoutchouc rubber technology was generating. With the
new Palio technology, we feel the ball much longer on the racket what makes
playing much more fun. I think that players in leagues 3-5 will be able to confidently
play with Palio ‘The Way’ and score many points there using this rubber. This
certainly is a professional rubber sheet. During the serve and during receive,
the sticky rubber sheets behave much better than their ESN counterparts. This
is an essential and undeniable benefit of using these rubbers, the serve is
much stronger than when using typical European rubber sheets. Chinese rubber sheets
require really good physical shape, especially for footwork, and therefore I
recommend that you go run in the morning :-) . 14:13 – 15:19 Within the channel I created a number of
playlists, suitable for players of various levels. I think you will find there
a lot of information that will help in improving your game. You are invited to
subscribe…. |
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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zeio
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Thank you for taking the time, JacekGM!
"The Way" modern table tennis is meant to be played. Edited by zeio - 08/13/2017 at 4:03pm |
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+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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Tajny1989
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JacekGM good job :) Thank you for your time :)
You are great!!!
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Egghead
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thanks
The sponge is 48~50 deg |
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JacekGM
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Yes, I too liked the way Dariusz said this in the demo clip!
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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ThePongProfessor
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By Chinese standards, this is a relatively soft sponge. Perhaps something like Sanwei National Target ?
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al_111
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It would be interesting to know the differences with HK1997 Gold (also sticky topsheet on 48-50 deg. sponge IIRC)...
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Tajny1989
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So this is similar to Sanwei Target National
Here I tested with a friend of Sanwei:
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Derf59
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Question ; you speak about a hard sponge and a soft topsheet, does it mean this rubber can be similar to Adidas P7 ?
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Tajny1989
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Adidas P7 is a European rubber.
Palio WAY is a typical Chinese rubber. You can not equate it. It's like a match pips out and pips in. Chinese sticky is another type of rubber.
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