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blahness
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Posted: 12/03/2017 at 12:24am |
For badminton strokes, pronation and supination are often one of the most explosive sources of power. Has anyone experimented with them in TT topspin strokes?
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Which badminton strokes are you referring to?
For table tennis, strokes tend to be either neutral or with pronated wrist.
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Can you please expand a little more on your question.
As I see it all defensive shots are played with pronation and all atacking shots are made with supination of the wrtist, except the drives which can be played with or without pronation. |
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blahness
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The advanced badminton overhead strokes all use pronation/supination if you look at the pro's strokes, same with the tennis serve. I've noticed that Fan Zhendong seems to be utilising this very heavily both on his BH and FH strokes, you can see how he closes his racket angle aggressively by pronating his forearm during FH strokes and supinating during BH strokes. Look at some of the slowmos here: The shots at 32 sec, 1:30, 1:53, 2:34, 2:40, 5:53 and especially 3:14 and 3:41 all suggests that he uses that extensively.
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zeio
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The FH pronation and BH supination involved in practically all those shots are for changing the shot direction.
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What about at 4:10 where it is just a normal BH-BH exchange but you can see how much Fan Zhendong supinates his forearm on the BH stroke.
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zeio
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Yes, the one at 4:10 is a combination of external rotation of the shoulder, extension of the elbow and supination of the forearm.
Both pronation and supination are involved in FH and BH, respectively. You can feel it, but pronation is usually too small to catch on camera. Supination is more noticeable during the followthrough, when the forearm returns to the neutral position. Edited by zeio - 12/03/2017 at 7:31am |
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+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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I use pronation and supination in all my loops. I think all players do, but it is especially obvious on strokes where you are out of position. IT is much more common on the backhand.
Edited by NextLevel - 12/03/2017 at 9:56am |
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