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Another New Ball - Synthetic Plastic |
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henningf
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Posted: 12/16/2017 at 4:07pm |
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Another new ball? Oh joy....
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Baal
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No 40+ ball can pla exactly like celluloid. But if it comes closer it is good. But this sounds like ABS.
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arg0
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Acrylonitrile butadiene styrene
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igorponger
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Nittaku Nexcel 40+ is going to be made of a new plastic, other than ABS.
approval data October 2017, release data unknown as yet. |
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Baal
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Interesting.
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LUCKYLOOP
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What is the projected price $5.00 each ? You get what you pay for ! |
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vanjr
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I love the title of this thread, "synthetic plastic"!!!
I guess I am holding out for the organic natural plastic 40+ balls myself. |
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Tinykin
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Oh, behave! |
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bbkon
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my blade is made with organic wood |
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benfb
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Butterfly is also advertising a new A40+ ball, new material, supposed to be shipping in February.
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jk92
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I've seen it for sale on ttnpp: http://ttnpp.com/store/3-stars/898-butterfly-3-star-ball-a40-39.html
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icontek
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I'm pretty sure that A40+ ball is an ABS ball. It's probably to replace the G40+ ball that butterfly manufactures. The (G) in G40+ is for (G)arbage. |
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TSuBaSa
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Sanwei d40 ABS seamed balls are very popular in aliexpress. 6 pack costs 5 bucks+ shipping.
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cole_ely
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What kind are these I get from yinhe?
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Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b
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Pushblocker
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If it plays closer to Celluloid, it would be a win!! I hope so...
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Baal
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Problem is always size. Probably the most important reason 40+ balls play differently from celluloid is 0.5-1 mm larger diameter and 0.07 gram increase in weight. A new material won't overcome that. But some materials like cellulose acetate make things worse.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to trying these. |
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Lightzy
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Ba'al, I think for those of us who play with tacky rubbers the material is quite important :)
It'd be a shame to kill the tacky. The tacky is so fun. |
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icontek
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Orange ABS?
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cole_ely
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Yes
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Medax
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Are those the huician balls? (Or however you spell it). From what yinhe told me, they are seamed balls.
Edited by Medax - 12/30/2017 at 2:55pm |
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Shifu
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This is super interesting :) Looking forward to it!
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igorponger
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THE "THUMB TEST" IS A DANGEROUS THING.
An essential observation with the ABS plastic balls, I recently happened to look up from YouTube.
Have you got the same experience? |
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Baal
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Any ball indented with a thumb is useless afterward.
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chop4ever
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As a chopper, I prefer to "test" the ABS ball by my thumb and yes, I did make it roundless for my advance!
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There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
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ChichoFicho
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Oh, this is so exciting. I can't wait to try these new balls. Are they going to have spherical shape or the geniuses at ITTF intend to further develop the game by introducing a new, more complicated ball shape, such as truncated icosahedron? If we have balls of different shapes, ping pong will be so much more fun. You will never ever know where it's gonna bounce
Edited by ChichoFicho - 12/31/2017 at 12:45pm |
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icontek
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This. Sarcasm is evolving at a rate to match the changes in material science and ball production.
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igorponger
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https://d3mjm6zw6cr45s.cloudfront.net/2017/12/2018_TWC_Prospectus_final.pdf
Double Fish V40+ is a new choice for ITTF events. This ball has a big inside seam and more spin, as reported by Russian vendors. |
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pongfugrasshopper
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Argh! Just bought a 72 pack of the DHS D40+ balls (which I think are great) a few short months ago and now balls are coming out with new material. Good thing they didn't change the table!
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liXiao
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No one actually knows when the new material balls are coming. There is 0 information about the Nexcel 40+ available out there except that it has been approved for tournament use. The 2018WTTC is using A40+ (which are ABS) and the World Cup is using V40+. I highly doubt we see the new ball before next summer.
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Eric Fountain
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The current ABS probably wasn't breaking fast enough for them.
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