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Oh! He sold me two of those as well right before his shop closed. I still have them, pictures on the first page. Charlie told me he only made 6 from that particularly dark piece of wood.
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Originally posted by Chairman Meow Chairman Meow wrote:

Oh! He sold me two of those as well right before his shop closed. I still have them, pictures on the first page. Charlie told me he only made 6 from that particularly dark piece of wood.


I am not sure when he actually made the demo blades but the American Western Cedar was choice !!!
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Quote The thickness was 9,5 mm and the blade was faster than I thought. 

Besides this BBC 1-ply I also ordered a WRC 1-ply from Kevin (American Hinoki)


This blade is thinner (9 mm) and has a better control (for me).
But it seems as if Hinoki or WRC 1-ply blades are not the right blades for me.

I love the natural design of these blades, but the difference to my "usual" blades is too big.
It was a nice "project" between two seasons, but I will not switch to 1-ply blades.

I am planning to test the AH 1-ply once more, but I am sure that this will not change my mind.
I will re-sell this blade also, because the feeling is too soft, not crispy enough for me.  

What rubbers did you used? 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Magic_M Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/03/2018 at 2:49am
I tested it with hard (H3/T05) and soft (FX-S/O7E) rubbers.
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Order placed.
Thank you very much.


skip3119, How is your Miyabi?
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So 2 extreme sets of rubber hardness and still not good. Maybe the next step is try the Darker Speed 90.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chairman Meow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/03/2018 at 2:01pm
I use H3 on my blades and it works fine. I think it just depends on the cut of wood you get. I have gotten lucky so far with all the cuts working very well. 
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I bought a Miyabi and love it.  It is effortlessly fast for top spin drives.  Loops will require a little better form and more refinement on my part but I believe it is within reach for me to get back to looping as well as I do with slower blades.  The first night I played with it at the club, I was told by a player who normally beats me easily that everything was popping off my blade giving him no time to react.  I hit drills with my coach who is a good 700 points stronger than I am and I was hitting some top spin drives right by him - even when he would drop back and lob back to the table I could hit them with enough varied angles and still fast enough to not be gotten to.

I play Rakza x and Rakza Xsoft on this blade and I really think this may replace my Ma Lin Carbon I currently play most of the time.

Sorry I don't have picts but it arrived with the rubber already on it per my order - so not much to see.


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Surprise to hear the Miyabi played well with Rakza Xsoft. I tried my Miyabi with T05 FX and this combo is too soft. I found that a slightly harder rubber like the T64 1.7mm is a great combo.
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Anyone have any info on a one ply racket with the logo "Mishima" MishimaButterfly on the handle. I have been wanting a one ply and got this in a trade.
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Originally posted by hleett hleett wrote:

Surprise to hear the Miyabi played well with Rakza Xsoft. I tried my Miyabi with T05 FX and this combo is too soft. I found that a slightly harder rubber like the T64 1.7mm is a great combo.


I was a little surprised I liked it as well as I did.  But I typically play a softer rubber on the backhand and knew I would need the extra dwell time if I could get it to spin the ball.  So it worked out nice.  With as quick as the bat responds I did not notice a huge difference between the X and Xsoft.
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Have you or anyone tried Rozena on a Miyabi or DS90?
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My TSP and Darker hinoki jpens

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Nice babies. Is there any significant difference?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ChichoFicho Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/21/2018 at 4:43pm
That Darker Hy Blade Speed 90 is made of the highest quality kiso hinoki you can find. Dynam Special is so-so.
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I haven't tried them to be honest but I do play with the lower models Dynam and Speed 90. Dynam has a soft feel and I think it matches well with the Mizuno Q3. The Speed 90 I think due to the smaller (squarer?) racket face feels a little more powerful. Both around the same weight 90-95g.
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I find the Hinoki on more recent batches of Special Dynam of higher quality. This Special Dynam #21411 is regarded well in the Korean market I read.

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Just received my Darker Speed 90 FL this afternoon. Standard DS90 head size of 155x150mm, weighing .17lb(77.11 grams)! Too light? Can't wait to test it out. Question: Do I need to seal it with varnish? poly?





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Too light? Weight is all a matter of preference so there’s no too light if that’s the weight you prefer.

I haven’t sealed any of my Darker Hinoki blades. No issues so far.
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Here is my new Darker Speed 90 I received last month - 77g
I have two more that I'll post - a heavier Darker Speed 90 that is 92g with flared handle and another Darker Speed 90 with ST handle that I believe is 90g.  I have a few other Hinoki one ply Shakehands blades that I'll post up as well.  Smile






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I´ve owned one of this Darker Speed 90 FL. Mine was 82g which was perfect. I sealed it with one layer of TSP Coat.
This blade gives one of the most pleasure touches: very fast, soft, solid and without vibrations. 
I found its headsize a bit small so I cut 2mm in the handle turning it into a 157x150 headsize.
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77g !?!?!? OMG , am I jealous? I never opted for a Darker Speed 90 cause I thought they were too heavy. I have a senkoh 90 which is 80g and I searched all around the world to find it. Actually I found two in japan and of course purchased both
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Yeah, you can request whatever lightest weight they have available which is what I did. Funny thing is that the blade head is slightly smaller than the head size of my heavier Darker Speed 90 paddles... I know this because I transferred the rubber sheet from my heavier Speed 90 to my 77g Speed 90 and I had to trim the rubber as it was bigger.
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Really? What size is your 77g? My 77g is 155x150. Where did you buy it from?
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What do you guys find better about lighter blades? I have never used one that light and I would like to know how it compares to single ply blades about 100 gr (aside from the obvious difference).

Edited by Chairman Meow - 08/01/2018 at 10:41pm
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I believe mine is the same measurements as yours. The size for the heavier ones I have is slightly larger and I don’t have those measurements handy right now, but in any case your 77g and mine are slightly smaller than the heavier ones. Now that I think about it, my rubber sheet I had on my Stiga Metal Wood that I bought from Magic_M fit my 77g Speed 90 perfectly. Bought my Speed 90 from Ooak website as they are an authorized Darker dealer based out of Australia. Where did you buy yours from?
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Originally posted by Chairman Meow Chairman Meow wrote:

What do you guys find better about lighter blades? I have never used one that light and I would like to know how it compares to single ply blades about 100 gr (aside from the obvious difference).


It’s personal preference. For me though, I am unique in that I compete with Parkinson’s Disease so my choice of weight impacts me tremendously due to my dominant right hand Parkinson’s tremors (shaking). Keep in mind that the paddle will get heavier once you add rubber to it.
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Navin323i,
I have a Miyabi with exact same measurements as my ds90 but weighing in at 91g.
I bought my from Hong Kong.
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Originally posted by hleett hleett wrote:

Navin323i,
I have a Miyabi with exact same measurements as my ds90 but weighing in at 91g.
I bought my from Hong Kong.


Good to know that there are still some ds90’s still being sold brand new by their dealers.
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My DS90 with a thin coat mixture of oil varnish/linseed oil/denature alcohol.

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BH view.


Shoulder view accenting the grain.

Edge view accenting the grain.
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