Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 48 Review

ericd937 wrote: Nightsky wrote: nv42 wrote: So the hexer line don't have a thin topsheet on a thick sponge? The nexxus topsheet felt similar to the older gen esn rubbers (transparent and grippy) compared to all the new gen opaque /matt topsheets. The gewo hype kr feels like a rasanter equivalent, similar topsheet and playing feel. See, it is about the concept we are talking about here. How a specific rubber feels or looks like is irrelevant in that context. The concept of thin topsheet/ thick sponge (Andro Rasanter, Donic Bluestorm etc.) vs. "regular" rubbers (Evolution, Tenergy, Hexer etc.)! Thin topsheet relative to the max. sponge thickness I should mention... The brands decided to counter the speed loss by the plastic ball by increasing the thickness of the sponge, but since a rubber is only allowed to be 4mm thick at maximum, it means that the topsheet has to be thinner... Andro started this concept with the introduction of Rasanter, Tibhar and Donic followed up with Aurus Prime/Select and Bluestorm respectively. Some time later Joola introduced Rhyzer 48 and 43. And now Gewo introduced their version. All of these rubbers are produced by ESN in Germany and all are marketed by the different brands like Andro, Donic, Gewo etc. as having a thin topsheet and thicker sponge (up to 2.3 mm). If the new Hexer Grip and Power Grip would be part of that concept, the rubbers would also be available in ultramax (or whatever you wanna call it) of 2.3 mm. But they are only available in 1.7, 1.9 and 2.1 mm, hence they cannot be part of that line of products. And again: it is not important in that context how Hexer Grip/Powergrip or Hype KR feel or look like; it is just a fact that they are not following that kind of (production) concept like Nexxus, Rasanter etc. You forgot one thing, the mic drop.

No, ofcourse not, only here to share and gain some knowledge. You were pretty darn precise in yua explanation, which actually cleared a few things for me really, appreciate that .:)
If someone would find a post like that rude or offensive in manner, it would be their bad, not yours.

To me, the nexxus line feel like a totally new gen of rubbers. Sure it has the same thin topsheet-thick sponge tech that rasanter and the others have, but it just feels like a totally different rubber to me, even if solely based on the fact that its performance doesn't diminish like every rubber from the mx-p gen onwards. Most of the prev gen rubbers like genius, aurus, rakza etc only lost a little amount spin and speed due to topsheet wear mainly, the sponged on the these older gen rubbers barely lost its perf(maybe a bit, but manageable). Whereas all the rubbers launched after the mx-p generation just lose their tuning and play like bricks even when their topsheets are in pretty decent condition. The most annoying thing like many have pointed out is that it feels like wer playing with completely different rubbers after a certain point.

So I'm really looking forward to other brands launching similar products. Even though the hexer grip and pgrip don't have an ultramax 2.3mm sponge, I was hoping maybe it'd still be based off the nexxus gen tech, which is quite probable since their all manufactured in the same factory either way, and maybe andro are purposely not offering them at 2.3mm just so that it doesn't become some in house competion for their rasanter series. Oh well, maybe we just gotta wait.

Edited by nv42 - 09/16/2018 at 1:25pm

A little off topic, but how does Apolonoa ZLC compare with Zero Quad?

I have two Zetro Quads. I find the outer ply on the soft side. I also have a Xiom Zeta Offensive plus Carbon, which is one of the hardest stiffest blades that I've tried. I've owned a bunch of different blades and always end up back with the ZQ, but the Apolonia ZLC has been of some interest to me. Please let me know what you think once you receive it. Where did you order it from? Here in Vietnam I can get one for about 200 dollars, but I saw they were around 280 at Megaspin. I'd like to give it a try before dropping that kind of coin, but I haven't seen anyone around here using that particular blade. 

Edited by ericd937 - 09/29/2018 at 8:36am

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So I just had a blast playing with these tonight at my club. Glued them on and no break in nor any sign of fading at all. So the tipsheet actually has a glisten on it but nothing special at least not like hurricane or super tacky rubbers lol. El pro 48 is a great attacking rubber for loops, smashes, and counter looping. El pro 43 is not soft so the 2 Europeans that reviewed the blade are totally wrong neither should a rubber be defined as a close to table play or for farther away playing style... both rubbers had no problems reaching either side of the table. El pro 48 is definitely faster but has good spin. El pro 43 reminds me of a mxs except boosted (not sure how it plays boosted but rather I meant a tweaked version of it) it has high spin and much easier to create spinny loops or counter loops, but only by like %5-10 which isn't much. Both rubbers are good at blocking and make a nice tok tok tok crisp sound. I will be playing again tmrr and adjusting alittle
I have unfortunately called off my apolonia zlc order as these rubbers changed my mind tonight. Apolonia zlc will have to wait because of my tourney in 3 weeks

I agree the El pro 43 wasn't that good tbh but then again it wasn't bad lol it just made my backhand more inconsistent than I wanted to though....
I'm waiting on my mxp and t05 tbh for backhand

I have EL Pro 43 and 38 on my Stiga Azalea Offensive. So far, so good, though I admit that the rubbers are better than I can exploit, if that makes sense. Nice grip, enough power, no complaints.

Think im gonna stick with t64 or mxp for backhand on my zlc blades over the El pro 43... The p48 actually had loads of gears and spin potential, but as another reviewer and player has said passive shots and blocking are kind of different so you need to readjust. I still haven't gotten it down all the way but getting there

I'm currently playing 4 month old T80 and I would say its still at least 90% of the peak of performance. I've reglued it three or four times and its still fits my blade nearly perfectly. I play almost every day and I'm sure I can get at least 2 more months out of this sheet of T80. Even though it costs more, its stays in nearly peak condition for quite a long time. I had to ditch the Nexxus EL Pro 48 after 4 weeks. Had it not came unstuck from the blade, it may have lasted longer. The top sheet still looks new, it just lost a lot of its punch after the shrinkage. It might be worth trying to boost it to see if I can bring it back to life a bit. Has anyone tried Falco Long Booster on it?  

Maybe I'll order some Falco booster then. I've been wanting to try the booster for my backhand anyhow. I'm currently using 802-40 custom glue on to an unusual sponge. I currently cant get the 802-40 in ox or the sponge Cole used for the custom job. I'm planning on boosting the normal 802-40 to try and achieve the same result. 

Edited by ericd937 - 10/18/2018 at 11:05am

I was planning on ordering from TT11.com because I want to get some shoes also. I think they only have the Falco. 

Edited by Fedex78 - 10/18/2018 at 12:35pm

ericd937 wrote: Maybe I'll order some Falco booster then. I've been wanting to try the booster for my backhand anyhow. I'm currently using 802-40 custom glue on to an unusual sponge. I currently cant get the 802-40 in ox or the sponge Cole used for the custom job. I'm planning on boosting the normal 802-40 to try and achieve the same result.

The 48 like I said is good I can send fast loops and power drives back for days. I can get as low as possible and still sling fast spinny unreturnable balls back
Also noticed the top sheets are nice and clean except the edges rip off easily.. I never noticed until last night but the left side has a small rip and tear idk how it got there.
The El pro 43 doesn't live up to it's up.
Gonna do El pro 48 on backhand and xt 48 for forehand