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    Posted: 11/16/2018 at 10:09am
Hello people,

I would like to know which model Butterfly blade you could post between the model Innerforce Layer ALC and Viscaria by all the factors spin/speed/control?

Thank you!
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I would say Freitas since it's similar to Innerforce Layer ALC with the ALC moved up one layer. If you want something similar to Innerforce ALC speedwise but like Viscarias Koto outer layer try Timo ZLF. You might want to hold out till the new Harimoto blade comes out since he plays something similar to Innerforce ALC if it's a unique blade it might fall between those 2

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I don't know about Harimoto blade, but Freitas, Carbonado 190 and TB ZLF - they have not any stability. Light, crisp feel and not so fast.
What about Garaydia ALC?
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Not the Freitas surely, it’s faster than Viscaria. I use Viscaria and have switched recently to Freitas due to damages to my Viscaria...I had to buy another Viscaria cause I couldn’t control the Freitas.
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You can have a look at the Victas Quartet AFC. Limba il ALC composition, similar to the Innerforce, but with an added thin fleece carbon ply under the top ply to make it slightly more direct.
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I guess it is Timo Boll ZLF.
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If you live in US. I would recommend to try Gambler Dragon Touch. Medium speed good feel and nice control blade. Can go wrong with $40 blade plus free tee shirt
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You could also look at Timo W7.
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There are a few Maze blades in the for sale section right now.
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I'm a little shocked to see people say Freitas is faster than Viscaria. My Freitas feels like a Korbel that's a little faster and stiffer.
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I've never played viscaria, but the Koki Niwa blade might be interesting.  It reminds me somewhat of an innerforce, but it's more crisp and faster.  
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In my circle of TT friends, which includes some very good players, we all think that Freitas is more powerful than Viscaria, if you don’t trust my real recent experience...I had hard time controlling my forehand loop with the Freitas compared to Viscaria...
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Originally posted by MCollins MCollins wrote:

I've never played viscaria, but the Koki Niwa blade might be interesting.  It reminds me somewhat of an innerforce, but it's more crisp and faster.  
what's the composition of both niwa blades?
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Originally posted by kolevtt kolevtt wrote:

Hello people,

I would like to know which model Butterfly blade you could post between the model Innerforce Layer ALC and Viscaria by all the factors spin/speed/control?

Thank you!

Victas Quartet AFC is what you are looking for.
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Originally posted by Tt Gold Tt Gold wrote:

Originally posted by MCollins MCollins wrote:

I've never played viscaria, but the Koki Niwa blade might be interesting.  It reminds me somewhat of an innerforce, but it's more crisp and faster.  
what's the composition of both niwa blades?

Koki Niwa blade has the same composition of Quartet AFC but with thicker core. It's a bit faster than Viscaria.
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Originally posted by AMonteiro AMonteiro wrote:

Originally posted by Tt Gold Tt Gold wrote:

Originally posted by MCollins MCollins wrote:

I've never played viscaria, but the Koki Niwa blade might be interesting.  It reminds me somewhat of an innerforce, but it's more crisp and faster.  
what's the composition of both niwa blades?

Koki Niwa blade has the same composition of Quartet AFC but with thicker core. It's a bit faster than Viscaria.
Slower than Viscaria, or at least less powerful
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Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

Originally posted by AMonteiro AMonteiro wrote:

Originally posted by Tt Gold Tt Gold wrote:

Originally posted by MCollins MCollins wrote:

I've never played viscaria, but the Koki Niwa blade might be interesting.  It reminds me somewhat of an innerforce, but it's more crisp and faster.  
what's the composition of both niwa blades?

Koki Niwa blade has the same composition of Quartet AFC but with thicker core. It's a bit faster than Viscaria.
Slower than Viscaria, or at least less powerful

Good that we have different perceptions. Clap
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