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    Posted: 01/14/2019 at 5:14pm
Just curious to see if anyone heard of or have used this Taiwan blade maker Gerry Handcraft Workshop's blades. https://www.facebook.com/gerrytbs/. I am tempting to order one.




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Woah... Gorgeous blades!
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Same but siam handmade is another good go to guy! I'm going to decide which one soon!
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Very nicely made !
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Is this taiwanese hinoki or japanese hinoki?
Taiwanese hinoki is said to be harder and heavier than japanese one. 
The grains of these 1 ply blades are very tight, but I'm not sure if it is made with japanese wood.

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With help of google translater, it seems that he uses Taiwanese hinoki, which is also known as yellow cypress.
Nonetheless, they are beautiful blades.
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The quality seems to be top of the line. Nice!!
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In case you hadn't notice, the 2nd blade is a combo of 1 ply solid Taiwan yellow cypress FH and SZLC and limba on the BH. Here is the BH photo.

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I've just found this picture on his gallery.
Seems to be a valuable information about hinoki grains!



(image is very small unfortunately)

We read people commenting on internet TT foruns about grain quality and how it can affect gameplay, but it is very hard to see an article or any sort of document about it.

Anyone who knows japanese, could please kindly translate this? I would be grateful. I really awant to know what is written there!






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Part of it is in Chinese. Top to bottom:
Highest extreme grade (I think he call it SSS grade)
High grade (SS)
Normal one ply blade
(last one has no writing)
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I think this is his 12.5mm SSS grade blade

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Those are some tight grains!!!!
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I asked the prices for 1 ply blade.

He said he uses only taiwanese cypress wood (no japanese hinoki). Price is between NT6500~NT13500 (which is about 210~437 usd). Not cheap at all, but I think it is a little bit understandable for those hyper tight grains, and his work seems to be bery good too. 

Unfortunately it is out of reach for me...


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Note that the price is not cheap.
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I was hoping someone can give a review/feedback or something. I am interested in a 9mm cypress-szlc-koto composite blade. Guess I'll have to do more research b4 placing order.
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I think it will play in a range similar to Japanese Hinoki since it is generally the same tree family. Kevin of American Hinoki makes blades using single ply wood and he uses some types of Cypress which plays really close to Japanese Hinoki. So I am guessing that these blades will also play great. Now whether that works for someone or not is another matter. I however will probably order one from this guy and one from Siam shop simply because they are gorgeous, one-ply and some kind of Hinoki. 
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Ranger-man, One of my concern is that the maker said that Taiwan yellow cypress has a higher oil/resin)/moisture content resulting in heavier weight and harder feel than Japanese hinoki and American cedar. So it's not easy to choose the right wood grade/thickness/composition combination. Can't wait to see how yours make out.
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what about the price of the more mainstream shakehand blades?
are they also expensive?
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Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

what about the price of the more mainstream shakehand blades?
are they also expensive?
 

Yes, there are many examples of mainstream blades which are just as expensive and some that cost even more than these blades. Both in single ply as well as in multiply. 
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Tough business then.
Why buy this and not butterfly?
I mean for normal blades, not for blades that are not sold anywhere else....
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Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

Tough business then.
Why buy this and not butterfly?
I mean for normal blades, not for blades that are not sold anywhere else....


No good performance/VFM reason to buy any blade from these small artisans, Ross Leidy and BBC included.
However, if you simply like what you see, buy it. As long as you are not struggling financially, enjoy yourself.



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Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

Tough business then.
Why buy this and not butterfly?
I mean for normal blades, not for blades that are not sold anywhere else....
 

You make a good point, but it is all about preference. Some may prefer the look of these handmade blades. Some like the option of getting a handle of their choice or a combination of plies that they prefer. 
It is like why a Honda or a Toyota or a Tesla? I personally have a weakness for one-ply Jpen blades. I have one from American Hinoki as well. That is why I want one from here to my collection as well as one from Siam Handmade. 
I have lost all interest in multiply blades by the more mainstream brands. The only mainstream brand I will still buy is Darker, because of their Speed 90.
So I guess it is all about personal preference.
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Originally posted by hleett hleett wrote:

Ranger-man, One of my concern is that the maker said that Taiwan yellow cypress has a higher oil/resin)/moisture content resulting in heavier weight and harder feel than Japanese hinoki and American cedar. So it's not easy to choose the right wood grade/thickness/composition combination. Can't wait to see how yours make out.
 

You are right Hleet. The tighter grains also suggest that the wood is much more dense and therefore heavier and will probably have less flex, so it will play differently compared the usual Japanese Hinoki blades. But I am still very keen one owning one. 
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Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

what about the price of the more mainstream shakehand blades?
are they also expensive?
Here is a link to his pricing structure, the #s are in NT$, US$1=NT$31. Too bad its ion Chinese. Let me know if you need translation but can't guaranty 100% accuracyEmbarrassed.  

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i am actually in the process of ordering one from him right now.  
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holy crap, never knew how rare taiwanese hinokis are: yellow compared to red.  Crazy.  Learning a lot from Gerry
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liulin04: What the specs?
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Originally posted by liulin04 liulin04 wrote:

holy crap, never knew how rare taiwanese hinokis are: yellow compared to red.  Crazy.  Learning a lot from Gerry
Would you mind to share a bit more with us what Gerry said? This kind of information is very interesting!

Also, what kind of details or customizations does he offer? You can decide everything (wood, shape, color, different handle, etc) or he has some different pre made patterns for you to choose?

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Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

what about the price of the more mainstream shakehand blades?
are they also expensive?

The composite shakehand blades can cost between NT$2500 to NT$4500 exclude shipping.

E.g. A blade similar to DHS W968/Long 5 is around NT$4200/NT$4400 exclude shipping


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Originally posted by shinshiro shinshiro wrote:

...Also, what kind of details or customizations does he offer? You can decide everything (wood, shape, color, different handle, etc) or he has some different pre made patterns for you to choose?
In Gerry's price site http://gerrytbs.pixnet.net/blog/post/132176615-, you can customize to your heart's content...all kinds of cypress(pink section) and veneers(brown section), all kinds of carbon, thickness, head shape, weight, handle, handle laser engraving(your name). Endless combinations. I need to make up my mind soon.
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