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For those who used to speed glue rubbers and now use booster, does boosting give rubber the same power and spin of speed glue?
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ineedacig
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I think booster gives less effect but longer time. The speed glue gives more effect but less time.
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TOO MUCH of KATAPULTA.
Oily boosters will temper Katapullta effect for ESN tensored rubbers to a less degree . Some players do not like the newest ESN tensors. bouncy as hell. |
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Tommy16
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No, not even close. Alltough I have only tested Falco tempo long with esn rubber and I was really surprised how minor the effect was. Maybe boosters works better with Chinese rubbers. Ftl only made my rubbers a bit faster, a bit spinnier and a lot softer=waste of time and money imho.
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haggisv
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Agreed 100%
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timoboll89
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speed glue is much more effective but it takes lot of time and the effect lasts for few hours.
boosting takes even more time but it lasts for weeks...and it works better on the new generation hard rubbers like dignics 05,09C or the chinese rubbers. you don't get the same result as speed gluing but it's close. i would avoid boosting tensors and tenergies...they quickly become mushy and too bouncy.
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chongqinghotpot
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not even close. If speed glues were allowed again, all the expensive rubbers and boosters would disappear overnight.
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chop4ever
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There is booster could work like speed glue. However, if speed glues are allowed, the pros won't use it anymore. There are something better than both, however they are not available in the market.
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There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
Falco is not a booster |
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penholderxxx
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Are we sure speed glue(s) is(are) banned ?
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pokerpete
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Care to expand on that?... are you saying pros no longer use speed glue nor booster? now there is something better! never heard of this sorry, but I haven't been around for a while. so now I am quite curious.
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chop4ever
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Tell me something about booster that you know. List a/some names.
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There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
Falco is not a booster |
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pokerpete
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I know of a few good boosters like Haifu (yellow/black), Lido, Falco etc. They last a few weeks or so.... what else to know? |
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mykonos96
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Igor has ilegal booster in his brain.
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chop4ever
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Lido is the thinnest one and closer to "booster" The rest are not
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There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
Falco is not a booster |
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pokerpete
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sure.....
But I guess I'm not really understanding what you are saying? Are you saying pros are using booster like Haifu then? or some new style booster that is apparently top secret lol ?
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chop4ever
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Haifu (yellow, brown, seamoon) are not booster, nor pro using it. Haifu family is much more better than Falco family, however they are still not powerful and consistent enough. |
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There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
Falco is not a booster |
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Baal
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My response to the original question is boosters are not even close. Speed glue was a different animal altogether. It really made everything better once you got the hang of using it. With that said, rubbers that were made back in the day (2000s) were designed to be used with speed glue and there is a very real possibility that speed glues on most of the modern rubbers would either not work as well as they did on something like Bryce, or would even damage some of the latest rubbers. I can't say for sure about this last part because I've never tried it. Also, I pretty much only use European or Japanese rubbers like Tenergy and for the last few years Nexy Karis (technically S Korean). I can't say how a modern Chinese rubber would react, although the ones that were used in the 2000s really came to life with speed glue -- I would go so far as to see they were almost unplayable without it. If you just play for fun, don't care about ITTF rules and don't mind breathing the solvent and the hassle of using it, you could save some money by buying the cheapest possible Chinese rubber and speed gluing it. Because that was one thing about speed glue that I remember well; it was a great equalizer for rubbers. It could make cheap garbage fairly useable.
Edited by Baal - 02/23/2022 at 10:56am |
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The booster changes the properties of the rubber forever. Once boosted, the rubber will never get back to the original unboosted condition. This is the advantage of the booster, in my opinion. I boost the rubber once and play it until the rubber is dead. The effect vanishes all the time, but still, it is better than unboosted rubber and at some point in time I notice no change any more. I boost only Hurricane or Skyline rubbers, no experience with other rubbers in terms of using them for a long time. In my case, using speed glue every day in older days made the rubber unpredictable (sometimes too fast, other times too mushy), unless the new rubbers were used every week. Sergei
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timoboll89
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i totally agree…i used 2 layers of falco on new sheets of dignics 05 and they play infinitely better than unboosted out from the pack, the effect lasts for a very long time.
Unboosted dignics is like driving a ferrari in 2nd gear, i wonder how people can play with it, no power, ball goes into the net, no feel at all!
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mykonos96
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Do you own a ferrari?
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timoboll89
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no i don't but i tried it!
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kindof99
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Most people would not agree that D05 has no power without boosting...
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timoboll89
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what i mean is that dignics and all the new super hard sponge rubbers are made for tuning.
Sure you can play with it unboosted but it's a waste of money in that case, because you don't have the elasticity and full potential you could reach by boosting. if you do not want to boost just stick with tenergy, evolution, rasanter, bluestorm etc etc...
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mykonos96
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I know a dude that is about 2100 and now using D09C both sides and his loops are not better that he used to hit with T05 Also I played with a penhold player around 2014 with moristo SP and speed glue His shots were superfast not even 2400 players could handle his FH.
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gekogark1212
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Main thing for me is that speed glue allows soft rubbers to not bottom out.
Boosters, no matter how good can't turn soft rubbers into spun machines. So yeah, not even close is correct.
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When people think about booster, the first word is Falco, the second word is softening, the third one is long-lasting They are booster, not even close to speed glue But there is something else, could act similar to speed glue to turn soft rubbers to spring machines Pros use it
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There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
Falco is not a booster |
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any one selling old days speed glue
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anubhav1984
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Do you still sell the booster and reviver? Any chance that I could get some of it in US?
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Leftstudio
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if you can, buy Haifu Dolphin speedglue. after 2 brushes that thing turns my H3 to a different animal…
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merlin el mago
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Short answer: speed glue is so far more effective.
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