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shij421 
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Tenergy 05 2.1 Black Tenergy 05 FX 2.1 Red |
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adambty
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Posted: 01/18/2007 at 1:34am |
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forget about posting anything into that forum. I have seen some review being removed. Forum posting and reviews must satisfy a group of moderators and friends. Either your posting gets deleted, edited or you get banned if you dont comply to their satisfaction.
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Jon2378
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Posted: 01/18/2007 at 1:43am |
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^ haha
such bitterness... being banned for nubness from dttw seems to have really hurt you |
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shij421
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Posted: 01/18/2007 at 1:53am |
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well as long as you don't spam the reviews with pornography links, I think you're fine =) Many people probably purchase equipment based on the reviews from that equipment reviews database, so I think contributing to it would be very helpful for all of us
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*JC*
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Posted: 01/18/2007 at 2:08am |
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you get kicked out for being a idiot, who says everyone should use bryce unglued
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Thats not a knife
THIS is a knife. Thats not a knife THATS a spoon. |
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ichorvile
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Posted: 01/18/2007 at 2:15am |
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I agree... I'm a beginner and have only recently bought my own custom bat. While searching around, dttw and this forum were my only sources of information (THANKS EVERYONE!). I wish there were more in-depth reviews though... I'm tired of seeing one liners like, "This blade is the best, go buy it!!! (10/10)". They start to sound like an advertising gimick if you ask me. |
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adambty
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Posted: 01/18/2007 at 2:22am |
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few weeks ago I was reading review on a product, a few posting was missing when I read again recently. Yesterday when a new online vendor introduce himself to the forumers... apparently there is a moderator selling the same products as this new online vendor... guess what, all the friends of moderators jump on him and accused and discredit the new vendor. http://www.tabletennis.gr/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6404 When you try to give good review of a product, if the product is not endorsed by the group of moderators and friends, that review will be unfairly distorted to their benefit. There is even once moderators were helping their friend to blackmail an online vendor to give replace a new bryce for a 6 month old used sriver, whhere they claim the online vendor selling fake products. ( actual posting was heavily edited by the moderators to safe-guard themself and forumers being banned for posting against the cheat ) http://www.tabletennis.gr/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5837 if you do not believe, try it yourself. That forum is really a disgrace. Luckily this forum is not like them. Unfortunately a few members from the other forum is here... hopefully they will not cause any harm here.
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adambty
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Posted: 01/18/2007 at 2:34am |
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he was kicked out because the moderators and friends does not agree with his opinion. That forum has only opinion and reviews of moderators and friends and nobody else. Even though an opinion is not the best, he should still be entitled to his opinion and not being called idiot and banned.
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silvalis
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Posted: 01/18/2007 at 2:47am |
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You're really cut about DTTW, aren't you...
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adambty
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Posted: 01/18/2007 at 2:53am |
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oh really, can you tell us what did you buy (blade and rubber), at what price and where did you buy it from ?
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*JC*
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Posted: 01/18/2007 at 4:03am |
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lol, your cut like a cut thing man.
get over it and stop trying to claim moral high ground. |
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Thats not a knife
THIS is a knife. Thats not a knife THATS a spoon. |
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wfwfitz
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Posted: 01/18/2007 at 5:59am |
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There is more action on DTTW than i realised. I must visit it more often.
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Wfwfitz
Xiom Axelo Xiom Sigma Pro Red and Black Butterfly Amultart Tenergy 05 Black and Red 64 |
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yogi_bear
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Posted: 01/19/2007 at 10:54pm |
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ive been a rubber and blade reviewer for DTTW for 3 years now.. we have to accept the facts that there are established facts on equipments and when somebody posts idiotic statements like "unbeaten since using unglued bryce fx" its really annoying.. i like that forum because there are less spammers compared to this forum
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cole_ely
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Posted: 01/19/2007 at 11:54pm |
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I don't think I've ever seen a spammer on this forum.
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Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b
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cole_ely
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Posted: 01/19/2007 at 11:56pm |
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Oh, and by the way. If someone gives idiot advice, just say, "hey that's idiot advice." Don't ban them.
That said, I don't have any idea what happened over there. But hopefully someone wasn't banned just for being an idiot. I think you should have to be a profane idiot to be banned.
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Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b
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Leeroy
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Posted: 01/20/2007 at 12:32am |
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LOL
 Oh my...Just read those threads
. Adam do you have many different names? Like GUEST, pingpongrob ? |
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BH: DHS H2 (orange) FH: DHS G666 or 729 40H German ESN http://www.myspace.com/leethedream |
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fatcomet
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Posted: 01/20/2007 at 12:43am |
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aww hay you guys
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Leeroy
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Posted: 01/20/2007 at 5:49am |
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Actually when I think about it I havn't seen any dodgies on mytabletennis myself...
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Blade: Galaxy U4
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Jolan
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Posted: 01/20/2007 at 9:28am |
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True ! But you have to consider also that most of the reviewers only feel the need of posting when they are very satisfied about 1 specific item. Therefore, it's logical they rate it 10/10 since they don't want to do a real review but rather a "must-buy". I know what I'm talking about since I posted there 3 times, sorry
 ...I swear next time I try a crap equipment, I'll let everybody know...If ever somebody is interrested (very doubtful...). |
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Vega pro 2.0mm Vega intro 2.0mm Blade collection : https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9 |
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Jolan
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Posted: 01/20/2007 at 9:34am |
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Very good
 . Thank you Cole. If all the idiots in the world were banned from forums, I shall feel very unsecure. |
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Vega pro 2.0mm Vega intro 2.0mm Blade collection : https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9 |
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ichorvile
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Posted: 01/22/2007 at 11:44am |
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Now that you mention it, that makes sense. Also, thank you for doing those three reviews! I'm sure they helped many people choose good equipment. When I was researching to buy my first few blades and rubbers, I got frustrated because I couldn't see the "whole" picture. At that point, it seemed like I learned a lot more from the reviews of equipment that got 7s and 8s (since they always had pros and cons)... On the other hand, I had lots of trouble comparing amongst the gear that were rated 'must buy' 9s or 10s (this was before I found mytabletennis.net  ). I guess product comparisons are much better on forum posts anyway... so I'm a happy camper. |
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kmh888
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Posted: 01/23/2007 at 1:09pm |
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that forum is biased..ive seen posts deleted as well.
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Gatien Extra
FH: Hurricane Provincial BH: Palio CJ800 Speed Special thick glue |
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adambty
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Posted: 01/26/2007 at 5:05am |
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kmh888, good to see that you also noticed.
Most of the "experts" who gives "good advice", they themself ends up with a dozen of blades... these "experts" dont even know what is good for themself, instead they called others idiots for disputing their claims.
When the "experts" were not able to respond to the "idiots" dispute. The easiest way to win a dispute is to ban the "idiots" so that "experts" is always right, even though they are not.
you probably seen recently how pingpongrob was attacked and discredited.
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Jolan
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Posted: 01/26/2007 at 10:07am |
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I'm puzzled. Does that mean you are authorized to give "good advice" only if you have used 1 single blade for years ? I'd rather ask advice to someone who has tried many sort of equipment instead of one...At least it sounds logical to me. Furthermore I've seen many posts at DTTW's making fun of self proclaimed experts rather than posts from people pretending knowing the holy truth. The last one I saw was a guy called "kenn" who was 100% sure that the best rubber ever is bryce unglued...He was doing a kind of parano�ac crisis every time someone else mentioned he could be wrong and at the end, yes, he got banned. I hope this kind of event will never happen here.
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cole_ely
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Posted: 01/26/2007 at 10:47am |
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Which is why I try to focus on what a certain racket does best. It's possible "niche." Why you might choose one or the other out of a similar pair of good rackets. There are always trade-offs. Nothing does everything the best.
That said, there is some equipment out there that is just JUNK. There's no sense in beating around the bush. |
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Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b
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adambty
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Posted: 01/26/2007 at 1:49pm |
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jcdi,
You will need a good knowledge of a blade before you can give a good review. A person with a single blade for many years will definately know that blade well enough to give a decent review of it. With this knowledge, he definately can review other blades by using his main blade as a benchmark. You do not have to own a dozen of blades to review them.
As for "Kenn", I dont see anything harmful by saying "Bryce is the Best unglued"., I dont think anyone will listen to him anyway, unless he is Timo Boll or someone very influential. There are probably 100's of others claiming their rubber is the best and none deserve a ban for that.
I dont remember "Kenn" going parano�ac anywhere in DTTW, it was the DTTW moderators and friends going parano�ac when they were unable to dispute what "Kenn" has to say. The moderators and their friends has to win all the time.
It was not because of "Bryce is the Best" topic that got "Kenn" banned in DTTW forum.
It was in other topics when the moderators were unable to dispute what "Kenn" said and they get very angry and starts to selectively modify, delete his postings to make "Kenn" looks bad and making fun of him. "Kenn" was pointing out this unethical behaviour of moderators of DTTW and that got him banned.
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Leeroy
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Wow! Yes I would have to go and agree with you on that adambty. It is more than disgraceful some of the antics of some. I know what ya on about. I have received such myself.
I remember when Kenn brought up "Bryce is the best". People got stuck into him like cut up losers. And then Kenn is now portrayed as the culprit.
People treated Kenn like sh*t. Was it warranted? No
I bet ya certain mods and people grilled him, he bited back with "reason", then they edited there posts leaving him standing alone for slim pickings.
You get that bullsh*t and move on. I did. You get to know who the real losers are, and Kenn aint one of them.
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in before we violate the 'don't talk on other forums' rule
oh wait... anyway guys this is really lame sorry shij that your link to the seemingly harmless DTTW database immediately became an 'aww hay you guys ppl were mean to me on the interwebs  ' discussion... right from reply #1 |
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Leeroy
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*adding more rules*
You think this is lame fatcomet? What about rules on such lameness adambty mentioned?
If this is lame to you what would you classify what adambty mentioned since you decided to put your "lame" opinion tag on in ?
Anyway, I don't think it's lame, I think it's decidedly noteable and convenient. I have seen much lamer things but hey thanks for your opinion on it *sigh*.. I'm sure you'd know fatcomet...
Anyway your right about getting off the topic with it and i'll get in and try steer the topic back :D.
Thinking about the DTTW equipment review database I know there are many chinese equipment that you can't review there. I have heaps of equipment I liked to review but couldn't there. I noticed they have every Jap/Euro rubber covered and always updated with any new equipment. Not so for chinese equipment which I find interesting...
Now that this topic has veered like this (as it does in much more worser cases elsewhere) *wink and sigh to the lame taggers*, I thought it would be a good idea if you could edit your reviews on the DTTW database. I propped up a few 10 out of 10's with first initial rubbers I used as a fair beginner. But got other equipment over time and wouldn't mind going back with a better understanding to do an updated, better re-review of those rubbers or blades.
They have edit feature in the forums as adambty touched on. Why not in the equipment review database? I thought that would be more convenient. Especially compared to the fact anyone can edit there posts in the forums which is can be much more than lame. Hey aint that right fatcomet since supposedly we..uhh *sigh* broke some rules ?
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Nice idea BUT if I put an edit function then the reviews/comment could be edited from everyone because there is login procedure to keep records from specific usernames. However as you have seen near the rating there is a unique id number. You could sent me the id and the new text and/or the new rating and I will do it for you. Denis |
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