Gambler Outlaw is in

rjett wrote: I have red sheet of Gambler Outlaw.  Nice sheet of rubber. But there will be lots different reviews of it.  I have not put any speed glue on it, and it will loop effectively.  The thing that make reviews vary is that it has different feel if you hit or counter.  Kinda gives me the feeling of regular sriver, as it loops well but counters with a hard crack feeling. So players that don't loop well, will think this rubber is hard with no spin.  But if you can loop it will feel like a medium sponge.   And it seems like it will be durable, unlike most of the gambler stuff. The reason I say this is because it has the look of high content of synthetic rubber like flextra.  Which gives it a plastic type of look to it.   A short way of describing it would be - A cross between JO Platin and regular sriver but with synthetic rubber   For $14 dollars a sheet, Nice sheet of rubber.   But it ain't no T05   my plans for it is to use on my bh which i loop 50% of time and counter hit 50% of time , but probably go back to T05 both sides before a tourney

yes similar to destroyer, but better.  When I tried destroyer , it was a must for me to speed glue on it.  Which the sheet changed the way it hit each time glued and soon fell apart.

Destroyer brought a pretty zippy blocking game for me on the BH, but looping was tough due to short dwell. Plus the topsheet looked pretty ugly very soon.

If Outlaw allows a bit more dwell and has a better topsheet, then it may be a winner.

Does it?

If possible can anyone please compare it to IQUL? It will be tremendously appreciated

Has anyone else tried this?

I tried this rubber last night along with 729-08.  I want to hold my opinion on the -08 untill I glue it on my blade and play with it for a while.

I will give my opinion on the Gambler Outlaw though.  I can't add very much more than what has already been said, but I will try.

I tried both rubbers on two different blades, a 1 ply ayous blade and a 7-ply 729 blade.  The 729 blade was a bit faster than what I am used to, but the 1ply ayous was about my normal speed (I normally play a 5 ply p500-like blade.....butterfly kong ling hui).  On both of these blades, the rubber does exactly what Dalamchomps says......it spits right out of the rubber.  Basically there is no feel to the rubber.....the ball hits and is gone, no sinking in at all.  I personally don't like this for I am used to rubbers like globe 999 where you can really feel the ball sinking in.

Due to this fact, I found the rubber extremely hard to control.  It was almost like the ball wasn't in contact with the rubber long enough to control what you want to do or where you want the ball to go.

In terms of spin, I have to disagree with what others have said, it may be somewhat spinny, but in my opinion no where near as spinny as globe or for that matter the newer butterfly rubbers, or for that matter even the 729-08.  The speed is very good, faster than most rubbers I have tried including the platin soft.

I think this rubber would be better for someone not looping, maybe for someone who smashes more or even blocks more.  I had a hard time controlling this rubber probably due to a variety of factors including the difference from globe 999, lack of feel, the speed, and lack of spin that I am used to. 

However, if you are someone that wants a fast rubber and play a fast carbon blade that already has no feel than this rubber may be for you!!!

Oh wanted to add,  The sponge actually felt pretty soft (by hand) compared to rubbers like globe and the new 729-08.  Which is actually confusing because normally softer sponges will allow the ball to sink in..........go figure??????

Geddoe, I currently have this rubber on my K6 and used it for the first time during league play tonight.  I have to agree with your sentiments, but add that my serves are more consistent with this rubber.  

I received Outlaw Red 2.0mm today plus a sheet of Inspirit UL 1.8mm 35 degree. First impression, Outlaw is light, 58gram uncut, the IUL is only 57g! I will post my views of both rubbers on a TSP Balsa 5.5 soon

I tried it, its good, more control for dead shots less deadly for active shots.

I am only going to compare it to tenergy. 

How does it compare to Dawei IQUL?

I think that 1.8 (and 1.5) may exist. I have seen it advertised on Amazon's US site, but I don't think it is easy to buy from there as I kept getting redirected to the UK site and I couldn't find out who was selling it to get in touch direct. Zeropong don't sell it in that thickness though so who knows, it could be a mistake.

I got the Outlaw 2.2mm and tried it on my FH yesterday.  It worked great on my FH.  Spinny and fast but very controllable.  However, the 2.0mm on BH seems a little fast for me to handle.  Perhaps 1.8mm might fit better on BH.  Again, for $14 it is worth a try.

how does Outlaw compare to Bryce Speed FX in terms of speed, spin and hardness?

Juan King Carlo wrote: I think that 1.8 (and 1.5) may exist. I have seen it advertised on Amazon's US site, but I don't think it is easy to buy from there as I kept getting redirected to the UK site and I couldn't find out who was selling it to get in touch direct. Zeropong don't sell it in that thickness though so who knows, it could be a mistake.

None of the other Gambler rubbers seem to be available in any thickness other than 2.0 and 2.2... so I doubt that they are producing Outlaw with "exotic" thickness sponge...