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    Posted: 03/23/2007 at 9:42am
If you guys care enough to reply in another forum, I have a qn on top spin serve:
 
 
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Please try now. It is working for me.
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you really dont have any choice butto attack them, although i admit it can be very difficult to flip a short tpspin serve that is kept very low.
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First You have to determine what spin is on the ball.  If I am unsure even after looking at contact I allow the ball to hit my bat with out any movement on my part and how the ball comes off will tell me what it is doing.  I find that more often than not when I push a serve and it pops up its a no spin serve.
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I think the server is probably doing two different serves with same action:

He does chop you put in net.
So next time you go under more... But this time he does topspin!!! and your shot goes up!

So
1st serve
use vertical racket
2nd serve
use vertical racket
3rd serve
use vertical racket
KEEP your return the same, this will help you read it.
Then after you are sure, open, close racket etc.
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whether it is a topspin ball or a backspin ball a slice will usually be a safe return. you can backspin back almost every kind of service
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.... theres this dude i know, he can touch short with backspin a short heavy topspin serve. duno how he does it..... baffles me. :X he uses normal fast reverse rubbers as well
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it's a slice, but its very hard to do and will produce heavy backspin. You have to be very precise.
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Originally posted by forehandloop forehandloop wrote:

whether it is a topspin ball or a backspin ball a slice will usually be a safe return. you can backspin back almost every kind of service

Yeah... right...
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Originally posted by Pip Master Pip Master wrote:

Originally posted by forehandloop forehandloop wrote:

whether it is a topspin ball or a backspin ball a slice will usually be a safe return. you can backspin back almost every kind of service

Yeah... right...


If you slice it right it is ok, but he doesn't know what spin it is. So the topspin will pop up and you have to block a hard shot.
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Usually I see people chop/push every serve especially in the higher level, I don't know how they do it but it works, I think you have to push towards the direction the opponent is slicing the ball (for ex: if the opponent does side-underspin and slices the paddle to his left [your right ] you push foward-right) someone correct me if I'm wrong but is this true? 
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Because at that level their reactions are so fast anything less than a flip-kill will get looped, and then you're scrambling back to get another shot at it.
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Oh my goodness. I know exactly what your talking about and i don't blame you for havign trouble with it. 
 
There is a penhold in my club that serves very short VERY heavy topspin.  And if I saw someone slice it back, I would know that person is a genius.  I usually just try to come up on it and attack it.
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when the player serves top spin, he pretty much wants to open the game up right away, so just attack it, don't try to push it short.  i have yet to see anyone that can serve a top spin that doesn't go out of the table after the second bounce because another part of the purpose for the top spin is the speed.  i can serve a fast heavy topspin sorta like a mini-loop, but i can't keep it short.  against people that watches my serve form, this serve works great, but against the players that watches the ball, this serve usually puts me at a disadvantageous position because i give them the first chance for attack
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Originally posted by Qtjoel Qtjoel wrote:

Usually I see people chop/push every serve especially in the higher level, I don't know how they do it but it works, I think you have to push towards the direction the opponent is slicing the ball (for ex: if the opponent does side-underspin and slices the paddle to his left [your right ] you push foward-right) someone correct me if I'm wrong but is this true? 

That technique does indeed work, it is difficult to master tho, my coach encourages me to use it against topspin serves that are too low for me to flip strongly.
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Originally posted by Qtjoel Qtjoel wrote:

Usually I see people chop/push every serve especially in the higher level, I don't know how they do it but it works, I think you have to push towards the direction the opponent is slicing the ball (for ex: if the opponent does side-underspin and slices the paddle to his left [your right ] you push foward-right) someone correct me if I'm wrong but is this true? 
 
I thought that if the ball has side spin, it is safer to continue that spin. So, in the above case you would push forward-left.
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I don't know what slice means, but in recent days I just give some time for his serve to lose the spin, then I push it. I stand close to the table, so that he serves long, then I step back few feets and take the serve.
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