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aXis
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Posted: 05/29/2007 at 11:46am |
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I would like to know the correct shift of weight(if any) when executing FH and BH loops and also when chopping. Thanks |
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pingpongpaddy
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ok for fh:
start with weight on back foot and finish with weight on front foot. Try it hitting gently against a block at first. Its that simple. |
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AVarun
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A common 'error' I make when trying to loop the ball is just using my arm , with hardly any waist or foot movement. It does work with weaker players, but with stronger ones, they'll be able to hit through the ball most of the time. An excercise I've been trying recently is only using my forehand against lower rated players in practice games, the idea being to develop the FH loop and the footwork to go along with it! |
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rustyfo
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uhm no, you should never ever have your weight on back foot. Have the weight on middle of the foot (not deadcentre, but slightly frontwards), then shift it to front foot as make contact. |
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louison12
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Okay, I should be the last to respond because I'm still trying to learn proper weight transfer. But I'm tempted to ask how fluent you are in English because you probably misinterpreted "weight on back foot" and you think he meant "weight on back of foot"? Then your clarification about "not deadcentre, but slightly frontwards"? It sounds like you're talking about the ready position, as in weight on balls of feet. But if weight transfer is the topic, before it transfers to the front foot, I think it should first be placed on the back foot, maybe even slightly backwards of dead center to borrow your term.
Maybe you just read it too fast. (I just hope and pray that "front foot" for you doesn't mean "front of back foot"?) I was looking around your post for some sign that you were being intentionally sarcastic.
Check this page:
Click on "End of Backswing" and you'll see: "Much of the bodyweight has been transferred onto the right leg."
Regarding weight transfer and chop: http://tabletennis.about.com/od/basicstrokes/ss/fh_chop.htm
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rustyfo
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well, I'm more or less fluent in english, but I have no idea what the different terms are for TT, since I havent really talked about TT in english much before.
The only thing I was trying to point out was, that I interpreted what pingpongpaddy said, as if he said that weight should be on the back of the foot, aka the heels, which is wrong. But I dunno, im not good at explaining in english, since im used to either visualizing in practise, or talking about it in either my native language or in Danish (which is where our national coach is from).... |
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aXis
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Thanks for all the inputs :D. I would like to ask about the backhand loop though. Since the forehand loop requires that your right foot(if right-handed) is slightly behind the left foot and you shift your weight from the right foot to the left, am I supposed to do the same for the BH loop or am i supposed to maintain the ready position and just loop it using only my arm? Also about the chopping, am i supposed to chop the ball with a scooping movement at contact or will a linear movement be enough? Thanks
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louison12
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http://tabletennis.about.com/od/basicstrokes/a/basicstrokes_ov.htm
I would guess there's less body movement and more elbow/wrist/shoulder with the BH loop.
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pingpongpaddy
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rustyfo
in this case back foot means right foot for right hander doing forehand and front foot is left foot. This is normal terminology in english table tennis. maybe you should learn it first before commenting :-) |
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rustyfo
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Would rather comment, then be corrected if im wrong, than having to read long articles telling me what I already know how to do + explain in my own language.
@axis For backhand you need to have your feet parallel, but if you are looping cross court from BH corner, you need to be facing in the direction you are shooting, so your left foot should be a bit infront of the right one. So in principle your feet should be parallel, but you need to be facing in the direction you are shooting. When looping BH, its crucial that you bend in your knees, and your upper body should be leaning a bit forwards, then as you execute the loop you "stretch out" the legs (not to fully stretched obviously), and open up your body. Be careful that you dont end the loop leaning backwards tho I practically never chop in matches, so cant tell you the correct technique for that |
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aXis
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i see...thanks :)
I still need advice for the chopping though
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ok Axis
I am deliberately trying to keep this explanation to the minimum because really using words to explain something thats best best understood by watching is difficult. For both forehand attack and forehand chop for a righthander: open stance (means one foot advanced, but you should only be partially sideways to the incoming ball) Start with the weight on the backfoot and move your body and arm forward as you make the stroke. Contact with the ball should be at highest point when attacking, but you should let it fall a bit when chopping. When chopping as well as going forward your weight should be going downward as you bend your knees. Similarly for topspin the weight may need to go up as well as forward, again assisted by the knees. Its important to emphasize that correct technique means using your entire body no matter how gentle your stroke. If you watch a good player just playing gently you cansee the weight moving from back to front and back again,all the time even though it may only be a tiny amount. |
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