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Who's testing Tempo unlimited glue????? |
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TiborKlampar
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Posted: 07/01/2007 at 6:34am |
Hi to everybody, I wonder if there's someone testing this new speed glue, the only VOC free (with Juic One shot) on market. It's a water based glue, long lasting speed glue effect (10 or 15 days, according to Berenger int.l).
Can you confirm this long lasting speed glue effect? How do you evaluate the speed glue effect (Berenger promise 70% of speed glue effect of traditional VOC glue)? Thanks to all.
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haggisv
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See review here:
Falco Temp Unlimited Also got some more comments here in the Table tennis forum Sorry for the shameless plugs |
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TiborKlampar
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Hi Haggisv, thanks! How much does the speed glue effect last ??? The question in the french forum is in this terms: 'cause when regluing the second (and subsequents..) time you're remaking "liquid" the previous glue, if you put much glue the time to drying the glue became longer and longer. So, when you apply the rubber on the blade you have dry external glue and wet deep glue, i.e. unpredictable result onto different points of surface.
Do you think it's necessary to glue also the blade? I'm making the first glueing and I think it's not so necessary!!!
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haggisv
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Good question, I have not got that far yet. Falco also has a booster, so perhaps once a few gluing have been done, you need to only use the booster.
I only use a thin layer on the blade, and it may not be necessary... the rubber stuck quite well, but it feels like it won't be too hard to get it off... Please let us know your experiences as well? |
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JRSDallas
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Haggisv, are you selling the booster as well? If not, who is.
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haggisv
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Not yet, but we will be. Actually I have not seen it anywhere...
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JRSDallas
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Great. Please announce when you do.
Regarding Falco Tempo Unlimited, I've been using it for about 10 days on a number of rubber sheets and it seems to be pretty good. It is very sticky and I've been using about 3 layers on my rubber sheets. The feel is very stable over the course of a few days (I haven't seen if it lasts 10 days). Heres a tip - I use a small hair dryer so that I can put glue on the blade and dry it in about 3 minutes. I glued up two or three sheet of rubber the day before (no hair dryer on the rubber) and bring them to the club. Then I get to switch between them and can even go back to one already used because the glue surface stays so sticky. Cheers |
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TiborKlampar
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In this moment I just can say that my rubbers (Skyline TG2 and LKT pro XT) are very sticky and soft. I feel softer all the rubber, even topsheet. This evening i'll test on table the results, i will post my impressions as soon as possible.
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ryno
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ryno
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That is bryce fx with 3 layers.I have been using this glue for about a month.very sticky and has a good effect .lasts a few days easily.very nice product just a little expensive right now
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absuhp
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ryno:
3 layers? I've only been using 2. What's your definition of a few days? Do you remove the buildup before you reglue? |
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mece
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where you guys get this falco glue?
can it be shipped by air? |
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absuhp
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I get mine from Dandoy.
Table Tennis Pioneers also seems to have it. I believe it can be shipped by air. |
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haggisv
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Yes it's perfectly safe to be shipped by air.
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YATTP
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How is the spin?
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haggisv
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As I mentioned in my review so far, there was an increase in spin too. The sponge did not feel as soft as my other rubber, but I seemed to get more spin through the topsheet. The feel of the rubber was a little different, but the results were similar. Hopefully the next glue and session will reveal more... |
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TiborKlampar
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Yesterday in the afternoon I tested my rubbers on the table, sparring Italian girl 50 in the italian rank. Well, the test for this glue is totally positive: spin is just slightly increased (I use chinese rubbers, much of spin yet) but it's impressive the effect of the glue on speed: they seem eurojap rubber, like Bryce but with very much spin. Opening game with flip is very easy, even on hard backspin and the feeling/control of the ball is slightly increased. I'll test this evening again and we'll see if there's a decrease in fresh glue effect.
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remixed
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i have just purchased this glue online and i was wondering if you have to remove the rubbers after you play, even if there's still the glue effect in it...i am new to speed-gluing, so please teach me the way, oh wise ones!
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haggisv
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It's better for the rubber if you remove since it's not good for it to be in it's stretched state all the time. However if you're going to be using it again within the period when it's active, I would leave it on. So only take it off if you won't be using it for a while, and probably at least 24h before you glue it again...
This is how it works for other long lasting glues, whereas with this glue the timeframes may be a little different... something for us to find out...
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So if i glued up the rubbers on a sunday, went to play on monday or tuesday, and went to play again on thursday, you are saying it would be ok to leave the rubbers on? Thanks haggisv for the info! much appreciated!
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haggisv
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Yes that is what I would do... after which you would take them off, and reglue them again sunday (assuming you have thr same routine). |
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ttman
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haggisv
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Fixed... accidentially deleted ALL my messages... bugger!
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remixed
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Thanks haggisv! now i await the delivery of my new speed glue...
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Braveheart
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I will soon join to Tibor experience in testing this glue. In the meantime many thanks for the suggestion.
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TiborKlampar
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I tested my asset after three days and my suggestion is: try this glue!!!! No changes in spin/speed, confirmation of all the feelings had in the afternoon of the past day. For me this glue is a crack!!!!!
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YATTP
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How about the spin? Reading through this thread I still don't get the impression that the new speed glues give lots of spin.
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TiborKlampar
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It depends on which kind of rubbers do you you use. I mean, using chinese rubbers (I do it) with so much spin basically, the effect of this glue on spin is difficult to see (but I see a slight improvement): it's more and more evident the effect on speed and that, combined with the high spin let the rubber become a crack! Perhaps using rubbers like eurojap, with less basic spin, the effect on spin improvement will be more evident but i don't know.
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I can't figure out how to purchase from this website. During checkout it looks like they won't ship to the US - but I can't read Italian so I could be wrong. Does anyone know who else is selling this booster ?
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