table tennis robot

xushaofu, it's better than butterfly amicus and is much cheaper. used by many chinese provincial teams (possibly national team too, not sure, who cares).
the only draw back? i haven't seen it been sold anywhere outside china. i will be getting it very soon..

But i want to know your opinion about THESE roots(butterfly amicus 1000, tibhar ROBO-PRO, donic Robo-Pong 2040), which one is the best? In my country i can buy only these ones. 

like i said i haven't seen it be sold anywhere,
here is a link of a seller in china (sorry it's chinese)..

and since i got a pm requesting that i compare xushaofa with butterfly amicus 3000, and why i think xushaofa is better, so i guess i can share my thoughts with everyone...

   first i have to say i do not own either butterfly nor xushaofa. (if i have made any inancurrate statement, which i doubt it, please feel free to correct me). i've only played with both once or twice, and both are very high quality robots, and which ever you buy is definitely worth it.
   with that been said, the mean reason that i like xushaofa more is that butterfly can have up to 4 (or 5) paths set for the ball during a drill. that means you can first make it serve(1), then a long push(2), then a loop(3), then a kill(4) and that's it. however for xushaofa, the limit is almost endless, you can have it serve, the drop shot, push short to forhand, push long to backhand, loop to back hand for 3 times before kill loop down the line, then play short after u save the ball.... you get the idea.

second, i like xushaofu for the zone division of the table. xushaofa divide your side of the table into 15 parts and u can ask the robot to place the ball in any part via serving or just over the net. it is much more convinient than the butterfly one where you have to adjust the power and angle to have the ball place to where you want.
   
then of course is the price, as you probably know butterfly cost more than 2000$, but xushaofa only cost about $800(and that's just market price in china, usually u can bargin it down about 30-40%). everything butterfly can do xushaofa can do. also, Xushaofa has hundreds of buildt in drills for you do to(you can change them), and butterfly one, you have to set the drill for youself(i'm not sure about this tho, the guy who let my play with his set the drill by hand)

man if i didnt have to save up for insurance for my 16th bday i would def be saving up for one of these....i would sell my soul for that (pm me for offers)

Patmandidily wrote: pauloman, I've tried Newgy Robo-Pong 2040, if that's what you're asking about. It's a complete waste of money if you have a practice partner. A practice partner is 10X better (this applies to all robots). A practice partner is not a simulation of the game while a robot is. Also, since a robot is usually feeding balls at a constant pace, you may develop bad habits. For example, if you wanted to practice blocking, the ball always shoots from the same place, and on the 2040, the head points to where the ball will go. This does not simulate reality because a real loop could attack anywhere on the table and come from any place, not just the center. yeah, trust pat :P If you want a robot though, the Amicus is the best one I've tried. The 2040 is fine too. Just make sure you have a coach to ensure you have good strokes.

I have a Robo Pong and for me it has help me a lot but some people say that it is crap or something. I reckon if u have a friend or a partner that u always go training with then i would reckon u should train with them because it be much better. The ball does not always go in the same spot and in competition the ball does not go where u want it too. Machine is for only people that don't have a partner to train with.

"It's a complete waste of money if you have a practice partner."

lol...dont be silly boy....thats like saying that owning a piano is a waste of time because you have a piano teacher you take lessons from once a week.......owning a robot will NEVER be a waste of time or money......unless of course you own one but dont use it.


"A practice partner is 10X better (this applies to all robots)."

again...completely false....a robot will always be better than a partner....every day of the week....for many many reason...

"A practice partner is not a simulation of the game while a robot is."

a practice partner is a lazy no good for nothing show up once in a while crack head....you can always rely on a robot...

Cyberswordsman

I have a Robo Pong 2050. It can shoot balls at random, positions, speeds and intervals.   If you don't like random mode there are the drills and if you don't like them you can program your own with varying positions, speeds and wait times.   The direction of spin cannot change but the amount of spin varies with the speed. Faster balls have an extreme amount of top spin just as fast back spin ball have an extreme amount of back spin.   Lifting these back spin balls is a challenge with T05. It isn't like playing a person but it is good practice.   Some the the drills are very aerobic. It is better than a tread mill and good for people like me that play for the health of it.

My complaint is that the firmware is not that good. It is written by piss poor programmers that don't use the machine. When it works it it works well but sometimes the firmware resets if you increment a value to fast or too much.   Also, there are some things are are inconvenient but the HMI what make using it more of a hassle.   I have old firmware and have been told I can upgrade.   I don't want to upgrade until they fix some of the problems crashing and reseting the count problems fixed. The problems are critical, just a pain in the rear.

My biggest complaint is that I often do a drill of 10 balls.   There is a ball counter and I must increment it to 10 before I start every sequence of 10. I wish the counter would reset back to my original value of 10 after it counts down to 0.   I would do longer drills if I didn't have to hit the + button 100 times between each sequence.

On the whole I am happy with the Newgy 2050. The mechanics are good and the setup is extremely simple. We take down and setup the Newgy quite often.

Pushchop,

Newgy sells rubber drive cleaner (Re-Grip).  It reconditions the rubber drive wheel and rubbing block.  It is a little expensive ($17.95) for a can but one can will probably last the lifetime of the robot.  I've been using it for about 3 years on my Newgy.

I recently bought a XuShaoFa, so far so good. Pretty realistic spins and pretty solid routines. Spin does not change with relationship to speed and it can produce dead balls as well as side spin balls.