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agni
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Posted: 08/22/2007 at 4:31pm |
Last month I played in a intra club tourney where I did pretty well (was 4 oveall) . But landed in some problems specially against left handers . Here is the pattern
I serve to the middle , lefty puts ball on the wideforehand , I go for my fav topspin side spin from wide forehand to bh , block come back to wideforehand , I again go for the same shot , block now come to the left of the center line ,I go for backhand top spin and hit it long or in net . I have practiced BH topspin a lot and If I play from a still position or even only moving bh rally I seem to get 9/10 . But here I just miss them . I tried putting the fh topspin on the forehand side of left hander (as plan B ) but the FH blocks come further to the bh making me scampering for the block . (My footwork is not that bad) . After some misses in match, I started placing the block return eventually losing the intiative . I tried the same pattern with robot and the results were the same . What I have observed is that due to misses , I am getting cautious with the shot and leading to errors . Also the problem I think is that distance between the ball and myself is slightly higher leading me to play and uncontrolled shot . I seem to stop earlier (one step) instead of going further towards the ball . If I get this shot going I can really control the Rally as it will allow me to recover for another fh shot which is very consistent & strong. Also I have no clue how can I reach to extreme bh balls blocked via down the line shot or fh cross court shot . Any tips would be useful. |
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thethinker
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The key for this kind of bh loop not on a still position is:
keep moving your legs to get into position. Use them to loop. don't reach with your arms. A lot of ppl do this. Bad. And don't worry about the next shot wide to your fh. You find that you still have plenty of time to get to that shot. |
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YATTP
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couple of suggestions:
1. long balls are difficult to block, anything too short is easy 2. go really wide cross court to reduce the angles of a block - and I mean *really* cross with pressure and real side spin 3. heavy sidespin is one of the standard tactics of both rightie and leftie in such a matchup; the battle is who is first to curve the ball out with pressure 4. what thethinker said about bh topspin on the move is good, but I wouldn't use a bh topspin at all when I'm really outmaneuvered. Backhand counter is safer and keeps you in the rally, or you have to use a bh slice if you can't make it in time or ballon defense. Bh topspin is so difficult because it requires perfect body position and the margin is very small. 5. try to build the rally in such a way that this scenario is unlikely; good player can pretty much go anywhere they want to, but only if they aren't put under enough pressure. Conclusion: Build up more pressure in order to limit the angles. |
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yogi_bear
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always do diagonal placements on the table is you want shots that are safer and won't go much out of the table granting you have the control.. down the line placements or mid placements are more risky
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easyfiji
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My coach always taught me to use the crossover step if the ball comes wide to the backhand. This way you have a much better starting point to make the stroke. By the crossover step, I mean use your right foot to step over your left foot toward the left side of the table. You will find it much easier to make this shot.
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thethinker
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I agree with YATTP's opinion. Pay attention to your opponent's position and how he defend, then attack accordingly. Takes a bit of experience but being the aggresser you will eventually win.
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Jolan
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Typical Left handers scheme. He blocks yr first diagonal loop straight to you BH and earns game direction. My 3 tips :
1/ Do your 1st loop wide on his FH, then move fast to your left and side and finish point with FH loop on his BH.
2/ Do your side spin FH loop on his BH, move back quickly and BH loop on his FH.
3/ Push back on his BH, let him start the rally and counter.
My two cents is, with lefties, never push wide on their FH or things get usually wrong...
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agni
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Thanks for the tips/feedback .
I think I can try the bh drive . I have seen that during a rally I am more inclined towards topspin . Actually my drive is good , but I give priority to the topspin . I will try to work on mixing more drive with topspins . Also the very wide fh shot to bh of lefty is a possiblity I can think of . |
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Agni try to think in terms of 'general direction of Play'. When its lefty v righty it can often come down to this. Most players control the game from the bh corner (Lefties and righties). They may have power wide on the fh but not much control. So serve or receive wide to fh. Yr opponents return must come back towards you waiting in yr bh corner. Now you control the game with yr bh block and fh drive. As opponent goes wide to fh hes leaving a space down his bh to exploit. Other thing against leftie make sure yr short serve is to his fh. most players are a little weaker returning short ball with fh. hope this helps |
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