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wiscaltt 
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 Topic: Rubber Cement ThinningPosted: 08/30/2007 at 4:28pm |
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Is it necessary to thin rubber cement before apply coats to the sponge and blade? I have some basic Elmer's Rubber Cement which I used on one of my spare blades today and it worked out pretty well. I did this without thinning.
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agooding2
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Posted: 08/30/2007 at 4:47pm |
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If it isn't too thick it's fine to use it as is.
I find after I open a bottle some of the solvent evaporates and a few weeks or months later I use a little thinner to get it back to the right consistency. I like Best Test rubber cement and Bestine thinner.
-- Andrew
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loopy
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Posted: 08/30/2007 at 5:00pm |
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agooding2 I have asked this question on numerous forums, on several occasions and have never gotten one single response. I am starting to think people think of me as an idiot for even suggesting such a thing. I did see on another forum someone asked about "Bestine" thinner but cannot remember where to find it again. Maybe its taboo to talk about thinning rubber cement but I would really like to know what the effects would be! |
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wiscaltt
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Posted: 08/30/2007 at 5:32pm |
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Is it ok, trying to thin it at all with water? Or would that dilute the rubber cement too much? Thanks
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Posted: 08/30/2007 at 6:18pm |
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You need to think the rubber cement with the solvent it's based on which is heptane. That's the ingredient in rubber cement thinner and Bestine is the brand made by Best Test.
After the glue ban is in place, it will not be permitted as it's a VOC, but if you glue a few days to a few weeks in advance the VOC's will dissipate. I think a lot of people don't know that rubber cement and basic or fix table tennis glue are the same thing, that's why loopy didn't get many responses. -- Andrew |
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Posted: 08/30/2007 at 6:19pm |
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I guess you didn't take chemistry in school. (just kidding) Rubber cement won't dissolve in water. Use the solvent thinner by Bestine.
JL
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loopy
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Posted: 08/30/2007 at 7:00pm |
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I must admitt I have never been accused of being the brightest candle in the box.
I was wondering, however, if thinning rubber cement would effect the play of a rubber sheet.
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loopy
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Posted: 08/31/2007 at 2:03am |
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Here may be why I get no replies. What I meant wad "effect on the sponge sheet".
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Posted: 08/31/2007 at 2:07am |
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Posted: 08/31/2007 at 7:03am |
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If it's thinner it will expand the sponge more as the solvent works to expand to sponge while the solids just attach the rubber sheet to the blade.
That's why speedglue is generally much thinner than fix/basic glue. -- Andrew |
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loopy
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Posted: 08/31/2007 at 2:47pm |
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agooding2, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU....... FINALLY THE RESONSE I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR!!!! So basically it will react similar to a speed glue, and I should avoid it like the plague due to the upcoming ban. Unless I want to try more rubber sheets in the future to make up for experimenting now
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Posted: 08/31/2007 at 3:53pm |
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Yes, the active ingredient in the solvent in rubber cement is a VOC, so assuming that there is testing and you apply the rubber cement at a time close to the testing (within a few days or weeks) then you might have a problem. I hope you don't assume that every local and regional tournament in the U.S. is going to buy a $300-500 Enez testing device. They don't do testing for illegal glue now after all.
That said, if you want to abide by the spirit of the rules (as I do) just don't apply your rubber the day of or even the day before the tournament. I usually put a new sheet on two or more weeks prior and by that time the Enez device shouldn't detect any VOC's, according to their own information at http://www.enez.de
-- Andrew
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