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Marcelob
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Posted: 09/01/2007 at 3:47am |
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It seems that Tibhar has launched a set of new products for the post-glue era, including long lasting effect VOC-free speed glues and a couple of new, interesting rubbers. Nimbus Sound and Nimbus Soft were released, if anyone knows of or uses any of these products, please comment!
I'd like to know as much as possible about them (If you'd like to read about their release go to www.tibhar.com) Thanks in advance, MB |
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Tibhar Dynamic 7
FH Rapid X-Press (2.0) BH Rapid X-Press (2.0) |
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lildudejds
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new clean tuning glues look pretty interesting.
One lasts for 2 weeks, the other lasts for 4 weeks(so they claim). |
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Nexy Hannibal
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creeder06
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sorry to say there is just no such thing as glue effect and feel without glueing no matter what marketing tool is used.
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if table tennis is to sports, what star wars is to movies, then you must be chewbacca.
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loopy
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So is rubber cement out as well as Speed Glue.
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asr1990
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yep,
anything with VOC'S in it is banned,
asr1990
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mizutani jun
tenergy bryce speed fx Will be trying Zeta soon |
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loopy
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Thanks ars1990.
what do you think is my best option.
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Blade:729 Bomb from colestt.com
FH:H3/Quattro 2.3 from colestt.com BH: Geospin Tacky 2.0 from colestt.com Loopers still rule(but learning to play choppers better) |
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YATTP
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The new Tibhar stuff is your best option because it's good.
Creeder06 shouldn't speculate ... first try then talk. |
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Marcelob
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I daresay these products are good, if something distinguishes Tibhar products is their excellent quality, I doubt they would make such claims on no basis. (That's just me speaking on experience)
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AMonteiro
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see this link from tibhar website..
http://neu.tibhar.de/downloads/VOC-free%20table%20tennis.pdf |
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creeder06
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believe me in am not speculating. it is a going fact at this point that tensioned rubbers and water based glues dont prefomr to the standard of regular speed glued rubber. plain and simple it is just the way it is. that is why i am going to continue to speed glue till i can buy it anymore. than i am going to take rubber cement and make my own.
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if table tennis is to sports, what star wars is to movies, then you must be chewbacca.
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alfie
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I know you don't play competitions but if you play at a club that has an organized league then that would be still considered cheating.
Don't you see it that way?
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creeder06
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i honestly dont really care and i still think that the glue ban could get pushed back or revised before it is all over.
i have started playing in some compititions aswell
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if table tennis is to sports, what star wars is to movies, then you must be chewbacca.
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YATTP
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Sorry, you are speculating about things you don't know nothing about. |
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asr1990
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HI YATTP,
what is the Tibhar stuff like in comparison to glue, how big is the effect?
Does it provide the same spin as VOC speed glues provide?
Many Thanks.....asr1990
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mizutani jun
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creeder06
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i do know something about nothing i have tried most of the "glue effect" products that have come out and none of them come close to actually using glue. how could it? it is a chemical reaction thing, that neither you or i could explain properly. but how can something that is waterbased accomplish the same thing as something with chemicals and solvents?? it cant sorry, gluee effect rubbers dont last and even brand new dont play as well as rubber with regular spped glue.
maybe in time someone will find a way to have organic solvents that are non aromatic then we will have speed glue that is legal and plays well. but until then we are stuck with 1. speed gluing 2. playing second rate products that dont preform and are twice asa expensive.
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if table tennis is to sports, what star wars is to movies, then you must be chewbacca.
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thethinker
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Sometimes it comes down to the rubbers that you are using.
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firetack
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louis_wong27
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how can you tell if something has voc's in it? |
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lildudejds
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the ENEZ machine will detect them.
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Nexy Hannibal
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YATTP
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The new Tibhar tuner works just like speed glue. Same spin, same speed, same sound, same feel. I've put more information about it here:
http://www.tabletennis.gr/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8694&PN=1&TPN=2 I never thought that this would be possible! |
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GraemeW
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I'm very happy with JOOLA Energy Xtra, however I am being sent some Tibhar test sheets and Tuner through my contacts in the Austrian squad. I will post a review once I have received them and given them a serious play test.
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Marcelob
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Oh YATTP, good to know!
@GraemeW, please keep us informed |
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bbkon
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dead wrong buddy, aromatic is benzene based molecules, there are organic solvents like hexane (not aromatic) and is ilegal,in other hand toulene has a benzene ring and is an aromatic molecule
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varghesep
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Is there a list of glues that are approved by ITTF? |
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YATTP
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The official list is currently empty and probably will stay empty for good.
Note that CT is not a glue but a "tuner". You racket will be legal if it passes the ENEZ test and it's your responsibility to make it pass. CT is VOC-free so there won't be any problems with ENEZ. |
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