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    Posted: 09/21/2007 at 10:52pm
What are the characteristics of a short pip rubber compared to inverted?

Pros/ cons?

I've been playing table tennis on and off for about 6 years, but I never experimented that much with rubber. I've used sriver, sriver fx, and F2 in the past, and for about a 2 weeks I have been using a new blade with sriver EL.

A girl that i know recently changed to short pips, I have not played her, but I watched her games and saw her game had not changed much since the switch. Her loops look exactly the same, with the same depth and spin. She said sometimes pips adds a certain "wobble" that makes it unusual and hard for some players to return.

So again, whats the real difference between inverted and short pips?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote varghesep Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/22/2007 at 12:37am

As you know, the table tennis game is primarily of spin. The players who would like to chop - which can generate good underspin - use short pips. With regular inverted rubber, you will not be able to control the underspin it can generate - short pips can vary the amount of spin based on your strokes. The short pips can absorb some of your opponents spin, so you can return your ball without worrying much of the spin. The players who like to smash uses short pips also - hit and finish the point strategy. With short pips you will have better control.

The "wobble" effect can confuse some players. The high rated players who can read the spin well will not have any problem returning the "wobble" balls.
 
The way a pips respond to incoming spin is different from a regular inverted, so you have to adjust your strokes to cope with pips. The pips from different manufactures vary in its performance, so all the pips wont behave the same way.
 
Hope the above helps. There are some great guys in this forum who can provide more tips.
 
 
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yeh i agree with varghesep, when hitting or relooping the balls from the short pips, u gotta open the angle of ur bat, not when versing normal rubber, its cause it returns floating and slightly backspin balls, so when u just stick ur bat out, with no active movement, it just plops in the net. Thats y my coach is giving troubles to everyone in club, hes like liu guiliang shakehand style lol.
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short pips are better for flat hitting,but you can put much more spin on the ball with inverted,if looping is your game best stay with inverted imo
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Most people switch equipment but stays with their old styles. I've noticed this a lot in female table tennis here in Sweden. Then it's pointless to make the switch.

There is an excellent tread about it here:
http://oneofakindtrading.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=384
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